Re: Semantic web - web-payments website.

The end user is equal. I believe that's the purpose here

Sam Mbale

Developer/Director
https://google.com/+SamMbale4




On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>wrote:

> On 04/11/2014 01:49 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
> > On the front page of that sight, have something perhaps headlined
> > (like products, transactions, etc.) that says something like
> > "semantic web", then described by stating something along the lines
> > of "the premise of the web-payments specification is to incorporate
> > semantic web requirements into a functional specification for the use
> > in commerce",
>
> -1
>
> We have very purposefully avoided the "semantic web" terminology because
> it is reviled by many outside of the Semantic Web community. "Linked
> Data" seems to be a phrase that people like, so we use that.
> Additionally, it is a means to an end. It's just plumbing behind the
> wall that most people don't need to know about unless they're actually
> working on this stuff. So, while we may want to link to a video and
> describe it in more detail, we shouldn't put too much focus on it
> (because not many people care that we're using Linked Data).
>
> We're using it because it solves a problem, just like we're using HTTP,
> REST, HTML because they solve specific problems.
>
> > Perhaps an introduction to "semantic web" (given in-part we need the
> > eyes and ears of commercial stakeholders, so using mkt. Language is
> > also needed, to give some understanding around why we're bothering to
> > revisit the concept of web-payments standards..)
>
> Agreed, we've tried to do this before:
>
> What is Linked Data?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x_xzT5eF5Q
>
> What is JSON-LD?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioCbTo3C-4
>
>
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/web-payments-with-payswarm-identity-part-1-of-3/
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/payswarm-part-2/
>
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/web-payments-with-payswarm-purchasing-part-3-of-3/
>
> The question is - why didn't those have the effect that we wanted?
>
> > I'm particularly interested in business cases that relate to data,
> > rather than commerce.
>
> Data (especially in offers and digital receipts) is a big part of what
> we're doing. You're going to have to elaborate more on how this interest
> of yours leads us to make changes in the documents we have or write new
> ones. Keep in mind that if it can be expressed in a blog post, that's a
> good place to start the discussion.
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments
> http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/
>
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