Re: A briefing on the W3C SE API

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Sam Mbale

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On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Sam Mbale <smbale@gmail.com> wrote:

> I will attempt to deploy  payswarm payment system on
> http://media.mpelembe.net tonight. this is a hackathon projecexperiment.
>  A realtime payment method  for publishers is the next step
>
> Sam Mbale
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> Developer/Director
> https://google.com/+SamMbale4
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>
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> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Kumar McMillan <kmcmillan@mozilla.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Anders Rundgren <
>> anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > To get some feeling for the difficulties combining traditional smart
>> cards and browsers, you may take a peek at:
>> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sysapps/2014Apr/0057.html
>> >
>> > I feel pity for Mozilla who bought into this API which also suffers
>> from the "minor" snag that SIM-cards cannot be used except through
>> cooperation with operators.
>>
>> Actually, it's the operators who are proposing a patch for the SE web API
>> to Firefox OS right now (not Mozilla) because they are partnering with
>> Mozilla to bring devices to market. As I understand it, this effort isn't
>> to solve the problem in a new [and better] way it's to make Firefox OS
>> connect to the secure elements that are already going to be built into
>> these devices anyway. As I also understand it, no one in Mozilla's security
>> group is particular excited about it.
>>
>> > Banks and operators are not the most obvious bedfellows, IMO it is
>> rather the opposite.
>> >
>> > Apple, Google and Microsoft have so far not commented on this API which
>> is sort of understandable since they have already invested in embedded
>> security hardware which is much easier to deal with.   Of course without
>> any coordination whatsoever.
>> >
>> > I.e. this topic is effectively out of scope for true standardization.
>>  Microsoft and the US government once had a chance coming up with a
>> universal solution when the FIPS201/PIV standard was designed.  However,
>> the smart card vendors kept the most interesting part for themselves
>> (initialization) which the mildly put non-visionary NIST folks didn't
>> realize would make their great standard useless for the private sector like
>> banks who simply cannot motivate spending $200+ per seat for a "Security
>> Solution".  The rest is history with an endless series of security breaches
>> due to the use of unauthenticated credit-card numbers.
>> >
>> > Due to this situation I feel pretty OK continuing with the Firefox
>> WebCrypto extension ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978867).  And if someone finds a better mousetrap?  Well, that's life :-)
>> >
>> > thanx,
>> > Anders
>> >
>> >
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Received on Monday, 14 April 2014 13:01:17 UTC