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Re: HTTP Signatures draft published at IETF

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 12:54:18 +1000
Cc: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, public-webpayments <public-webpayments@w3.org>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Blaine Cook <romeda@gmail.com>
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To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
On 12/05/2013, at 12:45 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 10 May 2013 02:05, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> Hi,
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> From's semantics and syntax are well-defined, and they are in use. If you want to do this, I'd suggest defining a new header, or a new link relation (to use in Link); From isn't going to fly.
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> Why?

Because making backwards-incompatible changes to the syntax and semantics of the most widely deployed application protocol on the planet is bad for interoperability.

Why are you so keen on redefining From?


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> Regards,
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> On 09/05/2013, at 7:18 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:
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> > Excerpts from Kingsley Idehen's message of 2013-05-08 20:29:19 +0000:
> >> On 5/7/13 2:12 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 7 May 2013 19:01, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
> >>> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    On 05/07/2013 04:04 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> >>>> Yeah, I'll ping Julian Reschke or Mark Nottingham about it to see if
> >>>> we can update the HTTP header field easily.
> >>>>
> >>>> +1
> >>>>
> >>>> There have been proponents of this for many years e.g. Toby, Nathan,
> >>>> Kingsley, myself ... just need to get the spec tweaked to
> >>>> distinguish between strings and URIs.
> >>>
> >>>    Do one of you want to take the lead on this? :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sure, I would be happy to.  Kingsley already asked Mark Nottingham
> >>> about this last month.  Im unsure what the most productive next steps
> >>> should be.
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> Another dimension to the same issue.
> >>
> >> We can loosen the HTTP spec requirements for "From:" without disrupting
> >> existing products that assume the header value is an Email address.
> >>
> >> All:
> >>
> >> Do we have any data about how broad current use of "From:" actually is?
> > +1 on allowing URI in "From:" request header :)
> >
> > I set it myself to email for about 2 years now using firefox extension: http://www.garethhunt.com/modifyheaders
> >
> > I also mentioned it in this email with link to work of Blaine Cook on *Privacy-over-Webfinger*
> > https://groups.google.com/group/webfinger/browse_thread/thread/52599662c273a043
> >
> > warning: mentioned thread got mixed with another thread so few messages went off topic first!
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> Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
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