- From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:13:19 -0600
- To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Cc: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>, public-webpayments@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CACvcBVr84GBMri11TKXsEnCNKrY1tVB5ot3vXjg14Q00P5KvEw@mail.gmail.com>
John Wilbanks is another name I ran accross when looking at the p2pfoundation site. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilbanks On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>wrote: > I just downloaded most of the payswarm documentation. I'm ready to get > reading :). > > Steven's story suggests that greatness comes from passionately pursuing > something. I think we would all be better off if this was possible for more > people. > > -Brent > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Brent Shambaugh < > brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Reference 13 refers to the Berlin Open Access Conference < >> http://berlin10.org/about.html>. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Brent Shambaugh < >> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Manu Sporny, >>> >>> Here is my take. I believe that creating a decentralized, peer-reviewed >>> academic journal system could be a good idea, but only if access is >>> carefully thought out. >>> It could be a boon to citizen scientists and the developing world since >>> they generally prefer open access, but doing so would require low cost. I >>> believe that a system >>> should allow payment now or later and donations now and later. Payment >>> could occur after a certain period of time, or after a certain event such >>> as revenue from >>> a project. >>> >>> Only designing for payment could be a tricky thing. A situation as >>> described in Richard A. Stallman's right to read <1> could evolve. Access >>> to literature >>> could become even more limited than it is today. Some, such as Eben >>> Moglen, seem to favor support from those with the ability <2>. However, >>> regardless >>> what happens I believe people would try to subvert it. Sometimes the >>> results could be hard to interpret <3>. I do believe that people who have >>> the >>> ability would want to help out, maybe even more so if they are given the >>> freedom to choose. >>> >>> I'm not certain if people will use it. I know the economy is in a slump >>> <4>, public universities are financially challenged <5>, highly educated >>> people are unemployed <6>, women >>> are increasingly getting PhDs <7> but are facing challenges <8> <9>, and >>> young academics <10> <11>, biohackers <12>, and those in the developing >>> world are looking for solutions <13>. >>> Some say that collaboration online is creating a new economic form <14> >>> and may replace institutions <15>. Innovation may largely also come from >>> the outside, in the case of manufacturers <16>. >>> Similar technologies have been around for awhile though <17>, and >>> innovation may be a geographic thing <18>. The web seems to be widely >>> adopted, why? >>> >>> For me personally, access to journal articles and books has helped a >>> lot. I had a bit of an obsession for almost everything in graduate school, >>> and I felt I had a clear advantage over those who were less privileged. >>> Learning about practically anything I was interested in, and comparing >>> various resources was amazing. How much are books and countless journal >>> articles worth anyway? >>> >>> -Brent >>> >>> >>> <1> Richard M. Stallman, The Right to Read. >>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read >>> <2> Eben Moglen on Facebook, Google and Government Surveillance >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJCczbSF-B8 Jun. 1, 2012 >>> <3> Canadian Study: Piracy Boosts CD Sales. >>> http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-boosts-cd-sales-071103/ Nov. 3, 2007 >>> <4> Stoller, Matt. Modern American Economic History in a Few Charts. >>> http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/10/modern-american-economic-history-in-a-few-charts.html, >>> Oct. 13, 2012 >>> <5> Public Universities In Peril. >>> http://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i27/Public-Universities-Peril.html, Jul. >>> 12, 2012 >>> <6> Barely Hanging On. >>> http://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i45/Barely-Hanging.html Nov. 5, 2012 >>> <7> For the first time, more women than men earn PhD. >>> http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-09-15-womenphd14_st_N.htmSept. 14, 2010 >>> <8> Women Dropping Out of Science Careers. >>> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5227334&page=1 June 24, 2008 >>> <9> Being Married Helps Professors Get Ahead, but Only if They're Male. >>> >>> http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/01/being-married-helps-professors-get-ahead-but-only-if-theyre-male/267289/Jan. 17, 2013 >>> <10> Young Researchers in Europe Launch Lobby Group. >>> http://cen.acs.org/articles/90/web/2012/12/Young-Researchers-Europe-Launch-Lobby.htmlDec. 27, 2012 >>> <11> Ethan Perlstien. >>> http://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i49/Ethan-Perlstein.html Dec. 3, 2012 >>> <12> A Biopunk Manifesto - Meridith Patterson. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thn7d7-jywU Jan. 10, 2011 >>> <13> Scaling Up Science in South Africa. >>> http://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i51/Scaling-Science-South-Africa.htmlDec. 17. 2012 >>> <14> Howard Rhiengold: Way-new collaboration. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5s3Z0iesRM Feb. 12. 2008 >>> <15> Clay Shirky: Institutions vs. collaboration >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPQViNNOAkw Jul. 14, 2008 >>> <16> Eric Von Hippel. Democratizing Innovation. >>> http://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/democ1.htm 2005 >>> <17> Parsaye, Kamran. Intelligent Databases: Object-Oriented, Deductive >>> Hypermedia Technologies, Wiley, New York, 1989 >>> <18> How the Crash Will Reshape America. >>> http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/03/how-the-crash-will-reshape-america/307293/6/Mar. 2009 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On 01/14/2013 03:58 PM, Steven Rowat wrote: >>>> > If, as you say Manu, PaySwarm already has this available in its core >>>> > architecture, then I think the time is right to start it. >>>> >>>> More food for thought: >>>> >>>> Mathematicians aim to take publishers out of publishing >>>> >>>> http://www.nature.com/news/mathematicians-aim-to-take-publishers-out-of-publishing-1.12243 >>>> >>>> I've sent an e-mail to Jean-Pierre Demailly, just to reach out and offer >>>> our help. >>>> >>>> -- manu >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) >>>> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >>>> blog: Aaron Swartz, PaySwarm, and Academic Journals >>>> http://manu.sporny.org/2013/payswarm-journals/ >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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