- From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:58:14 -0800
- To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, public-webpayments@w3.org
On 1/14/13 9:58 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> So how about it researchers of the world, would you publish all of
> your research through such a system?
Inspiring post Manu.
Three thoughts:
1. My own perspective.
(sorry to be long-winded about myself, but you hit the nail right on
the head for me, and I think you need to know all this to understand
my position):
Coming from an undergrad science background (engineering, which I left
before completing the degree), I was faced with health challenges that
mainstream medicine couldn't help, so for 10 years I did my own
research and amassed a large library of biomedical journal articles,
mostly in toxicology and immunology. On the basis of what I found I
published about 4 papers circa 15 years ago, the main one fully
peer-reviewed in a major journal (NIH's Environmental Health
Perspectives), the others editor-reviewed, also in well-known
mainstream journals. (You can find my peer-reviewed one, online free
full text at the NIH site, using my name through the PubMed database;
link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9539008). After this I was
officially offered membership in the NY Academy of Sciences and the
American Chemical Society, and was asked to peer-review other papers
in my field by other journals.
I did one set of peer-review, and asked to be paid for it,
explaining that I had no income whatsoever and was working outside the
university system, using the new Internet tools to search and find my
information. After an intense exchange of emails, the editor at that
journal did in fact pay me for the peer-review, while letting me know
that no-one gets paid for peer-review, and that he was paying me from
his own pocket.
After this experience I took stock of my situation: I got paid nothing
for the result of many years of work, even though this work had been
accepted in one of the world's three main journals on the subject and
was the reason I was being asked to peer-review; and nothing for
peer-reviewing such work (realized I couldn't continue to ask editors
to pay me for the peer-reviews). And I had another major monograph on
the subject in progress. It was a tough decision.
I squirmed around a bit, which I'll spare you; but in the end I
shelved the monograph after the first draft, quit doing the research,
refused the membership in the associations, and refused several other
requests for peer review (the last one, amazingly, arriving as late as
one year ago -- the system has a very long memory for the people it
allows in, apparently).
In the end I couldn't be part of such a strange system: take all my
work, ask for more, make me a peer-reviewer, and pay me nothing. Too
strange.
So, first, from my own perspective: go for it Manu. I sure as hell
needed it. Maybe I would start publishing again. Probably: I have
folders full of leads to be followed, that I can't help thinking about.
2. Mainstream Researchers.
I haven't been one of these, so I'll speculate only briefly: if you're
being paid $70k per year for an academic or biomedical position in an
institution, your position is politically and financially the reverse
of mine. The open system might seem ethically sound, but unless it's
obviously financially sound there will be no (selfish) reason to jump
to it. Additionally problematic: the implication of the new system's
success, if it is succeeding, is that the university/institutional
system may not be required for certain levels and types of abstract
thought; that advances can come just by people considering ideas and
doing thought experiments with them. If people can get fairly paid for
such work then the university/institutional system will lose some of
its power (and money).
So, it may be, as you say, a political choice for people on the
payroll of such institutions, and I suspect most will be against your
outlined open system for this reason, until it becomes necessary to
jump ship.
3. Do it anyway.
There doesn't seem to be a better option as far as I'm concerned. It
needs to be done. I believe a large number of researchers,
particularly younger ones accustomed to the open concept but also
older disgruntled ones like myself, will use it immediately. It only
remains to be seen whether it will be widely enough accepted that the
bulk of mainstream researchers will move to it. I think it will,
eventually. Maybe it's a similar situation to that of the oil
companies and the alternative energy sources: we all realize it will
happen. The entrenched institutions are fighting for their large piece
of the pie.
If, as you say Manu, PaySwarm already has this available in its
core architecture, then I think the time is right to start it.
Steven Rowat
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