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Re: Webkeys, OpenID, WebID, OAuth etc..

From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:27:05 -0400
Message-ID: <5174AE09.4010705@digitalbazaar.com>
CC: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, public-webpayments@w3.org, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
On 04/21/2013 10:53 PM, Dave Longley wrote:
> On 04/21/2013 05:26 PM, Henry Story wrote:
>>> In other words, your false claim about a "very complicated 
>>> non-decentralized protocol" is still rooted in your continued 
>>> disinterest in understanding what we implemented.
>>> 
>> Can you find a mail where you publically explained how this 
>> worked?
> 
> Yes, I can find those and so can you. Search the foaf-protocols
> list, for instance.

August 10th, 2010 - Dave Longley explains the JavaScript+Flash-based
WebID+TLS protocol:
http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-protocols/2010-August/003249.html

August 13th, 2010 - Henry Story responds to the thread:
http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-protocols/2010-August/003287.html

May 10th, 2011 - Dave Longley explains the JavaScript+Websockets-based
WebID+TLS protocol:
http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-protocols/2011-May/004942.html

There are at least 55 e-mails where Dave Longley took the time to
explain the protocol publicly. You were involved in many of those
conversations, but never did we get the impression that you were
actually looking at or fully grasped the implementations:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.foaf-project.org+longley

In the end, we gave up on WebID specification because, after a year of
us working on spec development and implementations, the community wasn't
receptive to our concerns about the usability issues behind client-side
certs. It was a deal-killer for us.

Luckily, the Mozilla Persona team seems to be well on their way to
solving the usability problem. We'd much rather work with a group that
understands that solving the login on the Web problem starts with
usability. It is our opinion that getting Linked Data and public key
cryptography into Persona is going to be easier than trying to fix WebID
at this point in time.

-- manu

-- 
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Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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