Re: Web Payments IG approves Verifiable Claims to proceed to W3C Management

On 14 July 2016 at 12:59, Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru <mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru>> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:31:13 +0200, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:

We know of the following modification requests to the charter:

1. Constrain the charter to Education only.

This strikes me as a very bad idea.

It makes sense to suggest that the charter *focus* on Educational Industry needs, and requires that the solution is relevant there. But any approach to standards that suggests different industries *should* have different standards to solve the same problem is short-sighted and IMHO desctructive.

It may well turn out that different approaches are the appropriate answer to the needs of say the Education and the Credit rating industries. But to assert that a priori seems foolish.

2. Demonstrate that the charter is not competitive to JSON Object
   Signing and Encryption Web Tokens (JOSE JWT).

Why is this important?

3. Remove or greatly narrow the overarching problem statement
   about self-sovereign ecosystem and goals from the charter.

The anticipated next steps for the Verifiable Claims Task Force and
Credentials Community Group are:

1. Determine if we want to constrain the charter to Education only.

At this stage I am opposed to such a constraint. To the extent that I would strongly consider a formal AC objection to it in a charter review.

cheers

Chaals

+1 to everything Chaals said

I wasnt entirely clear what constrained to education meant.  It seems to me the nature of VC is that it is based on URIs / names which can be reused in multiple scenarios.  If it means that the language of use cases and charter are oriented towards education.  I could live with that.



2. Update the Data Model and Representations specification to clearly
   demonstrate that this technology is not competitive to JOSE/JWT.
3. Determine if we want to modify the problem statement and
   charter goals.
4. Plan our first face-to-face meeting, possibly at W3C TPAC in
   Lisbon at the end of September.

W3C Staff are currently drafting changes that they think would result in
consensus. Once we have those suggestions in hand, and once we've talked
with the dissenting organizations, we'll be able to have a better idea
about timeline.

The next Verifiable Claims telecon will be Tuesday, July 12th at 11am
ET. Dial in details can be found here:

https://w3c.github.io/vctf/#telecons <https://w3c.github.io/vctf/#telecons>

-- manu



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