Re: No Web Payments IG meeting 16 November

> On Nov 14, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
> 
> On 11/13/2015 05:18 PM, Ian Jacobs wrote:
>> It does not seem to me we need a call on Monday. All this can go into
>> the proposal:
>> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/Main_Page/ProposalsQ42015/Credentials
> 
> Looks like I'm not being clear. Let me try again:
> 
> There is currently no workable proposal based on feedback from W3C and
> the Credentials CG. The proposed paths forward are in direct conflict
> with each other.
> 
> So, there is nothing to talk about on November 23rd unless we come to a
> compromise. I don't want to try to come up with that compromise on
> November 23rd as it delays the discussion more than necessary. We have
> the information we need to have the discussion on Monday:
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/Main_Page/ProposalsQ42015/VerifiableClaimsTaskForce
> 
> At a minimum, we need the W3C staff contact (you), the Chairs, and other
> concerned parties on the call to make sure that there is agreement on a
> compromise path forward before sending it back to the WPIG on the 23rd.
> 
> In an attempt to be even more clear:
> 
> * You've asserted that a new Community Group is the best path forward.
> * The Credentials CG has rejected that path citing various
>  concerns (re-creating what we already have in the CG, presumption of
>  non-neutrality, increased workload, delays, etc.)
> * The WPIG seems indifferent on the path, as long as the work gets done.
> 
> So, we need to see if you (and the people you are channeling) are okay
> with the proposal above before we raise it with the WPIG because it
> doesn't do anyone any good if we propose something that's just going to
> be immediately vetoed.

Right now there has been no veto, only discussion. I think the best way forward is to have
as complete a proposal as we can get, including the CG’s preferences.

There are also staff discussions happening, and a more complete proposal will facilitate
those discussions. There is not yet any concrete suggestion from the staff perspective, and
there won’t be by Monday.

ian

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