RE: Paper on Summary of ISO12812 by Alan Thiemann

That pretty much at a stroke knocks out Host Card Emulation, which is Google's approach to mobile payments, so I think I would be reluctant to make that step. 



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 孙倩(雪迪) [mailto:sunqian.sq@alibaba-inc.com]
> Sent: 19 May 2015 04:10
> To: Joerg.Heuer@telekom.de; public-webpayments-ig@w3.org
> Cc: ajthiemann@gmail.com; David_E3@VERIFONE.com
> Subject: 答复: Paper on Summary of ISO12812 by Alan Thiemann
> 
> Hi all,
> So, can we change the description to "Important data, such as the fingerprint
> template and private key, and sensitive code should be stored and executed
> in a security area (e.g. TEE, SE etc.) "?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Joerg.Heuer@telekom.de [mailto:Joerg.Heuer@telekom.de]
> 发送时间: 2015年5月18日 22:58
> 收件人: 孙倩(雪迪); public-webpayments-ig@w3.org
> 抄送: ajthiemann@gmail.com; David_E3@VERIFONE.com
> 主题: RE: Paper on Summary of ISO12812 by Alan Thiemann
> 
> Hello,
> 
> While we definitely support the importance of security hardware for the use
> of privacy-risky technology, I suppose to not explicitly ask for a technology,
> but rather talk about its capabilities. For several uses an SE might still be okay,
> though TEE might be desirable for the future. In fact, it might take a long time
> for TEEs to proliferate until then, we should allow existing solutions to kick in
> as soon as possible. I'd probably try to even think about how TPM/ MTM
> could be helpful too.
> 
> In this case, I'd propose to just refer to a "technology to store and validate
> fingerprint templates in separate security hardware on the device or
> physically connected to it".
> 
> Cheers,
>  Jörg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 孙倩(雪迪) [mailto:sunqian.sq@alibaba-inc.com]
> Sent: Montag, 18. Mai 2015 09:10
> To: 'David Ezell'; public-webpayments-ig@w3.org
> Cc: 'Alan J. Thiemann'
> Subject: 答复: Paper on Summary of ISO12812 by Alan Thiemann
> 
> Thanks for Alan's summary.
> 
> For the" Part 2: Security and data protection for mobile financial
> services"，I have some consideration that in order to protect financial
> privacy useful, the mobile device technology should combines Secure
> Elements
> (SE) and a Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) to protect payment
> credentials. Beacause the SE only has Limited processing and storage
> capacity, but TEE can offer safe execution of authorized security software,
> known as 'trusted applications', enables it to provide end-to-end security by
> enforcing protection, confidentiality, integrity and data access rights.
> 
> And when we design the payment architecure and use cases, we should also
> pay attention to that some payment application should be served as a
> TA(trusted
> appliation) to run in the TEE for security.
> 
> For example in the Use case  "6.2.3.1 Non-essential Use Cases -Biometric",
> we have already emphasized as following:
> An individual's privacy should be protected when performing any sort of
> biometric authentication.
> Important data, such as the fingerprint template and private key, and
> sensitive code should be stored and executed in a Trusted Execution
> Environment (TEE).
> 
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: David Ezell [mailto:David_E3@VERIFONE.com]
> 发送时间: 2015年5月18日 0:56
> 收件人: public-webpayments-ig@w3.org
> 抄送: Alan J. Thiemann (ajthiemann@gmail.com)
> 主题: Paper on Summary of ISO12812 by Alan Thiemann
> 
> Dear Web Payments group:
> 
> My colleague Alan Thiemann[1] has written a summary of ISO 12812[2].  This
> work is Alan's opinion of the work - not official.  But it is a very good
> introduction to the work and the expected trajectory at ISO.
> 
> I would request that everyone in our group give this paper consideration - it
> won't take long, and will help inform any needed discussion.
> 
> Best regards,
> David
> 
> [1] Alan is on the Board of Advisors for Conexxus (NACS technology) and
> does work for NACS.  He serves as chair of the X9 Mirror Group handling ISO
> 12812 work in the US.
> [2]
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2015May/att-

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