- From: Arie Yehuda Levy Cohen <arielevycohen@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:37:31 -0400
- To: Dan Schutzer <cyberdan250@gmail.com>
- Cc: Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>, "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org>
- Message-ID: <CAJ+R0wQYqLMuPJd-jtE_nL=LuumfOZg01ojYJx=HKVw3r01mCg@mail.gmail.com>
Pardon me Dan - failed to notice, downloaded and attached. Cheers, Arie -- Heritage & Legacy Advisory | Multi-Generational Wealth Preservation Arie Y. LEVY-COHEN FINANCIAL ADVISOR | INTERNATIONAL CLIENT ADVISOR ECONOMICS | FINANCE | BLOCKCHAIN TECH PRIVATE WEALTH MANAGEMENT P: 917.692.6999 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dan Schutzer <cyberdan250@gmail.com> wrote: > I clicked on link and it says access has expired > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Arie Yehuda Levy Cohen < > arielevycohen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> https://slack-files.com/files-pri-safe/T03G789F8-F06MKPGPR/afme_posttradeexplained_jan2015_w-2.pdf?c=1435065473-255fea898391b823f87ecadff74b76b5c043bd62 >> >> -- >> >> Heritage & Legacy Advisory | Multi-Generational Wealth Preservation >> >> Arie Y. LEVY-COHEN >> FINANCIAL ADVISOR | INTERNATIONAL CLIENT ADVISOR >> ECONOMICS | FINANCE | BLOCKCHAIN TECH >> PRIVATE WEALTH MANAGEMENT >> P: 917.692.6999 >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Adrian Hope-Bailie < >> adrian@hopebailie.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I'll take a stab at updating this. Some comments inline to clarify. >>> >>> On 19 June 2015 at 08:03, L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Here are two comments on the draft charter at: >>>> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/Roadmap/PaymentArchitectureWG >>>> in particular, on the revision: >>>> >>>> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/index.php?title=Roadmap/PaymentArchitectureWG&oldid=1995 >>>> >>>> (1) In the Scope section, it currently says: >>>> # Discovery of available payment instruments that can be used >>>> # by matching those registered by the payer with those >>>> # supported by the payee (as defined in the Payment Request). >>>> >>>> I think there was agreement in the discussions at the >>>> face-to-face that the selection of payment instrument is done by >>>> the payer, since we don't (for privacy reasons) want to expose >>>> all available payment instruments to the Web site. This is even >>>> explicitly stated in the following bullet. Despite that, I >>>> think the term "Discovery" is still a little bit jarring (since >>>> it suggests a discovery API). >>>> >>>> >>> +1 that discovery is possibly the wrong word. You'll recall that this >>> did cause some confusion during the use case discussion. >>> >>> My understanding from the discussion at the face to face was that we >>> wanted the recommendation to support openness in support of payment schemes >>> and instruments (i.e. The browser shouldn't prevent the user from >>> registering any scheme or instrument) but that we didn't want to prescribe >>> the algorithm that was used to match registered schemes and instruments >>> against those supported by the payee. >>> >>> At this point I imagine the browser API spec defining that the browser >>> MUST allow the user to define which "wallet" they want to use and for this >>> "discovery" algorithm to be provided by the wallet. Browser's may ship with >>> a default wallet from the day that they support the payment API but if the >>> user replaces this with another then the payment request (list of supported >>> payment schemes and instruments) must be passed, unaltered, from the >>> browser to the "wallet" whenever the payment API is invoked. >>> >>> >>>> While I don't have a better term to offer, I think at least it >>>> could be clarified more locally by adding a clarifying >>>> statement, such as "so that an instrument can be selected by the >>>> payer" at the end or something like "local to the payer" or >>>> "while keeping information local to the payer". >>>> >>> >>> I am starting to think we will need to use the term "wallet" and also >>> define what this means. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> (2) Some parts of the "Web Payment Vocabularies 1.0" >>>> deliverable's description seem too specific. In particular, I'd >>>> like to remove the entire (fourth) bullet point: >>>> >>>> # * For each vocabulary, the Working Group will create at >>>> # least a JSON-LD serialization and may create additional >>>> # serializations (e.g., XML). >>>> >>>> I'd prefer that the group not be constrained to those particular >>>> technical solutions. >>>> >>> >>> +1 to a more open charter and leaving the specifics to the WG >>> >>> >>>> I also wonder whether some of the first three notes in that >>>> section might also be too specific; it's hard for me to tell as >>>> they're far from my areas of expertise. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> (at flight level 36,000 feet, above Nevada) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 >>>> 𝄢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 >>>> Before I built a wall I'd ask to know >>>> What I was walling in or walling out, >>>> And to whom I was like to give offense. >>>> - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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