- From: Dave Longley <dlongley@digitalbazaar.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:35:05 -0500
- To: "public-webpayments-ig@w3.org" <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
The problem with the replacement terminology (payer-initiated for "push" and payee-initiated for "pull") is that there are different aspects of a transaction to be "initiated", so it's unclear what "initiated" refers to. For example, a customer (payer) "initiates" a transaction when they tell a merchant (payee) that they want to buy one of their products. However, in the end, a "pull" based mechanism may be used to actually move the funds. So, the terminology is unclear. One way to think about push vs. pull payments may be to think of readiness states. The money for a transaction shouldn't move until both the payer and the payee are ready for it to occur. In a push-based model, the payee is implicitly ready to receive the funds and is just waiting for the payer to become ready. Once the payer is ready, the funds transfer will occur. In a pull-based model, the payer indicates that they are ready by granting authorization to the payee to "pull" the funds from their account. Once the payee is ready, the funds transfer will occur. So, you can think of this as two boolean flags, payer-ready and payee-ready, and when both are true, money will be transferred. Therefore, the only difference between push vs. pull is which party is ready first. Push-based payments require that the payee be ready before the payer and pull-based payments require that the payer be ready before the payee. This can also be turned on its head, such that push-based payments require the payer to be ready last, or to finalize the transaction. Pull-based payments require the payee to be ready last, or to finalize the transaction. There was confusion with the original terminology because there are multiple things to be "initiated" when transacting, but does that same problem exist with finalizing a transaction? Can a transaction be considered "finalized" simply once both parties have indicated they are ready for the money to move? If so, perhaps we could use this replacement terminology: "Push" => Payer-finalized "Pull" => Payee-finalized Hopefully, even if those terms have their own problems, this way of thinking about the issue may help us find some better terms. -- Dave Longley CTO Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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