- From: Jacopo Scazzosi <jacopo@scazzosi.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 22:36:09 +0100
- To: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: Henry Story <henry.story@gmail.com>, public-webid <public-webid@w3.org>
> All that said -- Jacopo, your contributions are welcome, Thank you, Ted! > though they may not be accepted in full or even in part, > as we work towards group consensus and ratification. > person who builds such a refactoring in a single PR must be > prepared for the possibility that their suggested refactoring is > not acceptable by the CG, and so must be re-done in part or in > whole to achieve that consensus acceptance. Yes, this is a significant risk indeed. I'll try and see where that takes me. If I get burnt, I'll consider switching to smaller PRs. I do appreciate the reality check. --- Jacopo Scazzosi https://jacoscaz.com https://treesandrobots.com > On 28 Feb 2022, at 17:59, Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:32 AM, Henry Story <henry.story@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Please not that CSarven has helpfully put forward 3 PRs to the >> repository recently, >> >> https://github.com/w3c/WebID/pulls >> >> Those are simple and easy to agree with. > > I strongly prefer using GitHub Issues and PRs to trying to fake > those tools via the mailing list, from which we have long ago > evolved. > > Side-by-side comparisons of changes are far easier to work with > than mental constructions of the same from DIFFs or similar > kludges in email messages. > > >> I find it much easier to work on small incremental improvements, >> rather than changes that risk putting everything into question. > > It is definitely preferable to *generally* make small changes in > each PR, wherever possible based on clear statements of the issue > being addressed. A full scale refactoring of the current document > should be discussed in some detail before it is applied -- or the > person who builds such a refactoring in a single PR must be > prepared for the possibility that their suggested refactoring is > not acceptable by the CG, and so must be re-done in part or in > whole to achieve that consensus acceptance. > > >> The current document has had 10 years of consensus, > > I strongly disagree with this framing of the current document. > > The WebID IG/XG/CG changed group styles a few times over those > ten years, but has not really been active most of that time, > and the current document did not have group consensus when the > group went quiet -- when the XG expired -- nor at any time since. > No matter how many threads went across the CG and other mailing > lists, there were no regular meetings held, and no evidence > gathered of this alleged "consensus", via mailing list or > otherwise. > > Had there been such regular calls or other conversations, it > would have been clear that the current draft did *not* have > consensus, even for a day, never mind the ten years you're > claiming! > > >> so it’s really >> up to those seeking changes to make their case, and we’d like to make >> sure we are moving consensus forward, not putting everything in question. > > It's up to *both* groups to make their case, IMNSHO, and > those seeking changes have no less firm ground on which to > stand than those who seek to keep the document as it is. > > The latter have some inertia in their favor, but they have > nothing like a consensus from the past group(s) who never > published even a NOTE or REPORT, never mind a document that > progressed to CR, PR, or TR. > > All that said -- Jacopo, your contributions are welcome, > though they may not be accepted in full or even in part, > as we work towards group consensus and ratification. > > Be seeing you, > > Ted > > > > > > -- > A: Yes. http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html > | Q: Are you sure? > | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > > Ted Thibodeau, Jr. // voice +1-781-273-0900 x32 > Senior Support & Evangelism // mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com > // http://twitter.com/TallTed > OpenLink Software, Inc. // http://www.openlinksw.com/ > 20 Burlington Mall Road, Suite 322, Burlington MA 01803 > Weblog -- http://www.openlinksw.com/blogs/ > Community -- https://community.openlinksw.com/ > LinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/company/openlink-software/ > Twitter -- http://twitter.com/OpenLink > Facebook -- http://www.facebook.com/OpenLinkSoftware > Universal Data Access, Integration, and Management Technology Providers > > > >
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