- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 11:47:01 +1000
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: public-webid <public-webid@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM1Sok1Qh5n_p9LRxdyin1bEJ80BB4jKUu7u7uGaHczj+1cy2A@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 11:28, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > On 3/5/19 8:11 PM, Timothy Holborn wrote: > > Few Thoughts, > > Traditionally, with WebID - there's the published docs about WebID URIs > (inc. FOAF) and then there is the various WebID AUTH methods, such as > WebID-TLS, WebID-RSA and i assume somewhere WebID-OIDC (with > WebID-WebAuthn on the way?) > > Perhaps also - there could be a lack of documentation about three things, > > 1. WebID's that may not use foaf (ie: twitter.com/webcivics / > linkedin.com/in/ubiquitous ) and that are not 'semantically enabled' or > 'rww / solid' enabled? > > To the best of my recollection - a WebID is a URI that describes an > Agent. Some URIs (ie graph.facebook.com/myuri ) may 'speak' RDF, others > may not. > > 2. Intelligent Agents / WebID - where the WebID may produce dynamic > records in a manner that interoperable supports the needs of agents in a > dynamic manner.... > > or perhaps the latter conflates Solid-WebID related functions, to > something that may be considered solid-smartAgents or some such thing? > > 3. With respect to 'privacy enhanced design', is it not true that a > service provider may generate URIs that provide permissive access, but that > do not otherwise identify the intended beneficiaries of that link unless > authenticated? ie: a generated WebID that's used to manage the relations > between two agents, or an agent and a class of other agent/s. > > Noting: https://www.rogerclarke.com/ID/IdModel-1002.html ( Figure 1: An > Entity-Relationship Model of Identity ) Perhaps this may be considered > something along the lines of 'endifiers'? > > Am i correct in thinking traditional RWW / Solid WebIDs are not dynamic in > nature? Yet that also - from a standards point of view, perhaps this > doesn't matter? > > A related issue may also be the specificity of FOAF noting WebOfThings in > particular: https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/ and > consequentially, > > a ponderance as to whether a 'web id agent' in terms of 'solid' may indeed > need to be clarified? and if so, what are the implications... > > FWIW - there's a great deal of implicit knowledge, and in my observations > - people seem to 'glaze over the top' of RDF, which in-turn becomes a > greater barrier than the time currently required to figure out what it's > about, once the importance of it is better understood to the agent engaged > in a nuanced 'role of the observer' tech qualification process.. > > Timo. > > > Hi Tim, > > If we can distill to a collections of questions for the FAQ it will help > immensely. > > The problem with RDF is that is generally misunderstood for a variety of > reasons. It's saving grace is that it is based on logic, so most question > and answers can be translated into a webby knowledge graph via a FAQ. The > exercise in of itself will showcase what this is all about and what RDF > adds to the mix. > > Power is never given, it is always taken. The forces that are terrified of > RDF aren't going away any time soon, so we need to get our collective acts > together and fix the fundamental issue. > > In my eyes the issue boils down to: > > 1. Clear explanations > > 2. Clear terminology > > 3. Easy to understand examples. > > > 1-3 are the effective way to solve the challenge at hand, collectively. > cheers. It might take a week to turn it around, thinking cap is on. > > Kingsley > > > On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 05:16, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> > wrote: > >> All, >> >> Recent discussions in this forum demonstrate a clear need for a more >> dynamic FAQ system. >> >> Here are some suggestions: >> >> [1] >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVsDK9TGVjLGYcrJpk0hsrDun4a-zwOyQqloTxIpRi4/edit?usp=sharing >> -- A Google Spreadsheet where content is transformed into RDF and >> published as 5-Star Linked Data (I'll handle publication) >> >> [2] https://kidehen3.solid.openlinksw.com:8445/public/CoolStuff/faqs/ >> -- Data Space from a Solid Pod >> >> For the Google Spreadsheet, access is granted by way of request. >> >> For the solid pod, access is granted by providing me with your WebID via >> reply to this post . >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Kingsley Idehen >> Founder & CEO >> OpenLink Software >> Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com >> Community Support: https://community.openlinksw.com >> Weblogs (Blogs): >> Company Blog: https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog >> Virtuoso Blog: https://medium.com/virtuoso-blog >> Data Access Drivers Blog: >> https://medium.com/openlink-odbc-jdbc-ado-net-data-access-drivers >> >> Personal Weblogs (Blogs): >> Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen >> Legacy Blogs: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ >> http://kidehen.blogspot.com >> >> Profile Pages: >> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ >> Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen >> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >> >> Web Identities (WebID): >> Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i >> : >> http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this >> >> >> > -- > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com > Community Support: https://community.openlinksw.com > Weblogs (Blogs): > Company Blog: https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog > Virtuoso Blog: https://medium.com/virtuoso-blog > Data Access Drivers Blog: https://medium.com/openlink-odbc-jdbc-ado-net-data-access-drivers > > Personal Weblogs (Blogs): > Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen > Legacy Blogs: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ > http://kidehen.blogspot.com > > Profile Pages: > Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ > Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen > Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > Web Identities (WebID): > Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i > : http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this > >
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