- From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:13:42 +0100
- To: public-webid <public-webid@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
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FYI: There was a request from the chromium team to describe how the keygen element is currently being used. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@chromium.org> Date: 26 November 2016 at 10:59 Subject: Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Remove: Keygen To: melvincarvalho@gmail.com, blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org> Cc: svaldez@chromium.org, awhalley@chromium.org, rsleevi@chromium.org On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 9:31 AM <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:46:29 PM UTC+1, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > *Primary eng (and PM) emails* > > rsl...@chromium.org, sva...@chromium.org, PM: awha...@chromium.org > > > *Link to “Intent to Deprecate” thread* > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/ > pX5NbX0Xack/kmHsyMGJZAMJ (conclusion: https://groups. > google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/pX5NbX0Xack/vHDX0041BAAJ ) > > *Summary* > Remove support for all key types in <keygen>. As per the HTML spec, the > element may continue to be recognized, but attempts to submit a form with > this element will result in it providing a zero-length string, as defined > by all versions of HTML that include <keygen> ( https://html.spec.whatwg. > org/multipage/forms.html#the-keygen-element ) > > *Motivation* > As documented in the "Intent to Deprecate," thread, <keygen> poses > systemic risk by modifying the permanent system, outside of the browsers' > security model and the origin security model. It was introduced for > purposes of device-wide configuration, not limited to TLS client certs (as > reaffirmed on the Intent to Deprecate thread by those using it to provision > S/MIME and other non-browser certs), and poses risks to user security. The > lack of cross-browser support and the insufficient level of configurability > that has lead to vendor-specific alternatives further indicate that > <keygen> is not a desirable part of the Web Platform. > > *Compatibility Risk* > Since Chrome 49, <keygen>'s default behaviour has been to return the empty > string, unless a permission was granted to this page. This was originally > scheduled for removal during Chrome 54, but to avoid any issues around > holiday production freezes (and because of CA security incidents > distracting from timely deprecation), this has been pushed back, > tentatively targeting Chrome 57. This time was to allow sufficient > migration time for enterprises relying on this feature for enterprise > device provisioning, migrating to the OS-provided APIs. For non-enterprise > cases, libraries such as PKIjs ( https://pkijs.org/ ) exist to address > the use case of creating CSRs or downloading PKCS#12 files for import. > > *Usage information from UseCounter* > From https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/ > popularity#HTMLKeygenElement , usage is at 0.0028%, well below the 0.03% > upper bound for deprecation. > > UMA metrics indicate that 0.01% of users over 28 days have stored a > permanent exception for a single domain, which is consistent with it > primarily being an enterprise feature of limited scope > (Metric: ContentSettings.Exceptions.keygen). Those who have stored for > more than 1 domain, in aggregate, are approximately 0.001% of users, with > the vast majority of that being stored at 2 domains. > > UMA metrics indicate that 0.10% of users over 28 days that have configured > an explicit default setting have set a default policy of allowing <keygen> > on all domains, despite the security risks identified (Metric: > ContentSettings.DefaultKeygenSetting ). Of those, less than 0.001% are > set via enterprise policy, indicating there is no longer a strong > enterprise need to maintain support (Metric: Enterprise.Policies). > > These metrics are consistent with the Intent to Deprecate, that the > feature is rarely used in practice, and when it is used, it is for a > limited set of domains. > > > -1 > > This element is in use. > > Please do not deprecate, until a suitable replacement is available. > Can you elaborate on how you are using keygen?
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