- From: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:52:48 +0200
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, public-webid@w3.org
On 2015-08-04 15:49, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 8/4/15 3:18 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote: >> On 2015-08-04 08:01, Henry Story wrote: >>> >>>> On 30 Jul 2015, at 16:44, Anders Rundgren >>>> <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2015-07-30 16:32, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>>>> :( >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.platform/pAUG2VQ6xfQ/FKX63BwOIwAJ >>>>> >>>> >>>> Since none of the big users of client-side PKI have ever bothered >>>> with this crap >>>> it won't be missed. This signifies the (expected) end of WebID-TLS >>>> as well. >>> >>> Not quite, as it depends on what happens in the TLS 3.0 group. But >>> WebID-TLS can still >>> work very well for server to server communication. It seems that in >>> any case that is what >>> is going to have to happen, as browser vendors seem to have lost >>> their marbles somewhere >>> along the way from Netscape to here. >> >> The browser folks have lost the war against "Apps". They don't >> realize (or acknowledge) the >> obvious either: By bridging the Web and App worlds you could COMBINE >> the power of BOTH worlds. >> >> The Web advocates are rather betting on that Apps is a fad, completely >> ignoring the fact >> that Google, Apple, and Microsoft are putting giant resources into >> their App platforms. > Anders, > > The World Wide Web is Linked Data collective crafted using Open > Standards (URIs, HTTP, HTML, RDF Language [retrospectively]) . > > A Browser is an App. For some people including myself a Browser is more like an Operating System. Unlike traditional OSes, a Browser is designed to execute transiently downloaded code (i.e. Apps) from arbitrary sites on the Internet. This ability is both a blessing and a curse. We are currently discussing the "curse" side of the coin. Anders > Same applies to all mobile apps. > > An application reads, manipulates, and writes data. > > It's about the Data and how its web-like form that matters. > > The Web-like form of data is a characteristic of structured data > representation that leverages the duality of HTTP URIs (as Entity Names > that resolve to Entity Description Documents). > > Note: > HTML is a Language (signs, syntax, semantics), but it has fixed notation > (HTML tags) and serialization format (text/html). > RDF is an Abstract Language (signs, syntax, semantics) that doesn't have > a fixed notation or serialization format. > > The only problem with RDF is that the term "RDF" is used too generically > which propagates nothing but confusion. > > Links: > > [1] > http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/situation-analysis-never-day-goes-by.html > -- Data & Semantics > [2] http://www.slideshare.net/kidehen/understanding-29894555 -- > Understanding Data >
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