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Re: [saag] Liking Linkability

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:26 -0400
Message-ID: <5085360E.3080008@openlinksw.com>
To: Ben Laurie <benl@google.com>
CC: nathan@webr3.org, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, Ben Laurie <ben@links.org>, "public-philoweb@w3.org" <public-philoweb@w3.org>, "public-identity@w3.org" <public-identity@w3.org>, "public-privacy@w3.org" <public-privacy@w3.org>, Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>, "saag@ietf.org" <saag@ietf.org>, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
On 10/22/12 7:26 AM, Ben Laurie wrote:
> On 22 October 2012 11:59, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>> On 10/22/12 5:54 AM, Ben Laurie wrote:
>>> Where we came in was me pointing out that if you disconnect your
>>> identities by using multiple WebIDs, then you have a UI problem, and
>>> since then the aim seems to have been to persuade us that multiple
>>> WebIDs are not needed.
>> Multiple WebIDs (or any other cryptographically verifiable identifier) are a
>> must.
>> The issue of UI is inherently subjective. It can't be used to objectively
>> validate or invalidate Web-scale verifiable identifier systems such as
>> WebID or any other mechanism aimed at achieving the same goals.
> Ultimately what matters is: do users use it correctly? This can be tested :-)
> Note that it is necessary to test the cases where the website is evil,
> too - something that's often conveniently missed out of user testing.
> For example, its pretty obvious that OpenID fails horribly in this
> case, so it tends not to get tested.

>> Anyway, Henry, I,  and a few others from the WebID IG (hopefully) are going
>> to knock up some demonstrations to show how this perceived UI/UX
>> inconvenience can be addressed.
> Cool.

Okay, ball is in our court to now present a few implementations that 
address the UI/UX concerns.

Quite relieved to have finally reached this point :-)



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