- From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 12:12:17 +0200
- To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Cc: "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKaEYhJj0dY0QUbw3K0NOQWg6-ihkpOrueing7SgOnP6LHeQ9Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 6 October 2012 12:03, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: > > On 6 Oct 2012, at 12:01, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 6 October 2012 11:42, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: > >> >> On 6 Oct 2012, at 11:39, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6 October 2012 11:25, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> (1) I think solves the unlinkability problem >>> > >>> > Can you explain what the unlinkeability problem is? Or for who it is a >>> problem? >>> > >>> > 4. Unlinkability >>> > >>> > Definition: Unlinkability of two or more Items Of Interest (e.g., >>> > subjects, messages, actions, ...) from an attacker's perspective >>> > means that within a particular set of information, the attacker >>> > cannot distinguish whether these IOIs are related or not (with a >>> > high enough degree of probability to be useful). >>> > >>> > This is something Harry brought up. >>> >>> Can you explain why it is problematic. It is not because he brought it up >>> that it is problematic right? Or is he someone who sets the standards >>> of what is or is not problematic? Through what authority? >>> >> >> Harry stressed that this was a key consideration to him. As an >> influential member of the social web (he was chair of the W3C Social Web >> XG), I would consider his opinions important. His complain was that he >> raised this before, and that the webid group did not look at it. >> >> >> But you have not summarised in your own words what his complaint is. So >> how do you know we did not answer it? >> >> >> If we, as a group, are able to address such concerns, or show that we >> have evaluated them and proven then are non issues (for example in a FAQ), >> it may help bring the benefits of WebID to a wider audience. >> >> >> That is why I ask you to express in your words what the problem is, and >> see if you can come up with an answer to the >> problem. And indeed we should add this on a list of question and answers >> that comes up. >> > > I have quoted the passage cited by Hannes, Harry and others. > > > yes, but you have to develop that passage and see how it applies to WebID. > It is not an obvious passage at all, and it is not clear it applies at all > to WebID. > > It's something we (as a group) have been asked to look at. In truth, it's > been quite a hard conversation to follow as there were many replies and > points raised in a short period of time. I dont know if unlinking the > public key from the URI provides more 'unlinkability', it was just a > suggestion. > > > > But it seems unclear to me that the concerns have been addressed. > > > Well I did in fact answer that mail. But I am going to send out a new mail > right now, to make sure it is clear. > Yes I saw, and Kingsley has made an argument on this too. But that's no guarantee that an argument has been taken in. I was reading this yesterday, which emphasises the challenges of communicating persuasively http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2009/10/writing-wednesdays-2-the-most-important-writing-lession-i-ever-learned/ > > Certainly there was no acknowledgement of that. > > > By whome? By Harry? He never acknowledges mails that don't go in his > direction. > It was Hannes and Harry that asked us to look at this. > > Perhaps it is the nature of mailing lists that it can be challenging to > know when a consensus is reached or a problem has been solved. > > >> >> Henry >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Henry >>> >>> Social Web Architect >>> http://bblfish.net/ >>> >>> >> >> Social Web Architect >> http://bblfish.net/ >> >> > > Social Web Architect > http://bblfish.net/ > >
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