- From: Max Froumentin <maxf@webfoundation.org>
- Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:55:27 +0200
- To: public-webhistory@w3.org
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It was indeed Bob Hopgood, and he sent his latest version. It is now at http://www.w3.org/2012/08/history-of-the-web/origins.htm in its original HTML version. Again, recommended reading, from someone who was around very early on. Max. Max Froumentin <maxf@webfoundation.org> wrote: >Continuing my exploration of early academic articles about the web… > >Hindsight makes some old articles from early web and hypertext >conferences very entertaining reading. Yet, I've failed to locate any >trace of what appears to be timbl's first paper: "World-Wide Web: >Information Universe", Electronic Publishing: Research, Applications >and Policy, April 1992. If anybody has an idea where to find that >paper, I'm sure it would be quite interesting. Else, I'll try the long >route of asking him. > >While googling I found this "History of the Web" PDF [1], which is >quite interesting and touches on topics not usually addressed, like >markup. It doesn't say who wrote it, though. I have a vague suspicion >that it's Bob Hopgood: the document's copyright is with Oxford Brooks >uni, Bob's actually visible on a photo (p. 21 with Tim's father), and >he's modest enough not to have put his name on the document. I will go >the long route and ask him. > >[1] http://www.weblab.isti.cnr.it/education/documents/origins.pdf > >Cheers, >Max. > > >On 16 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Max Froumentin wrote: > >> At least there's a photo, at the top of the article, whose date >indicates it was taken at Hypertext '91 : >> >> >http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/7/10/crossdressing-compression-and-a-collider-the-first-photo-on-the-web >> >> The rest of the article, about the Horrible Cernettes picture, is >worth reading too. >> >> Max. >> >> On 12 Jul 2012, at 00:04, Shane Hudson wrote: >> >>> There seems to be a lot of interesting reports from Hypertext'91 but >as of yet I have not found any that are freely available. Tempted to >add the digital library to my ACM subscription, but unfortunately I >would still not be able to share it. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Max Froumentin ><maxf@webfoundation.org> wrote: >>> On the subject of conferences, >>> >>> I was reading a book recounting the first conferences on cybernetics >(then called conferences on the Circular Causal and Feedback Mechanisms >in Biological and Social Systems), in 1946, and the author recounts >quite vividly the discussions that took place then, which turned out to >be pivotal for the newborn information science. It so happens that some >of the conference's discussions were recorded in shorthand by one of >the attendees and proved to be more valuable than the papers presented >[1]. >>> >>> I don't know if at, say, Hypertext '91 there were similarly >fascinating and important discussions on the newborn Web, and if they >were properly recorded. I can see a "trip report" at [2], but it's for >sale! I hope there are other testimonials to be found (it's not as if >all they attendees are now dead) and studied to trace the evolution of >concepts and ideas. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Max. >>> >>> >>> [1] The book is "The Information" by James Gleick and a site on the >conferences is at >http://www.asc-cybernetics.org/foundations/history/MacySummary.htm >>> [2] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=134438 >>> >>> I recently wondered about the proceedings of early-Web conferences. >Not proceedings as in the list of papers published, but discussions >that may have taken place, that were (or not) recorded. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 Jul 2012, at 19:40, Daniel Dardailler wrote: >>> >>>> I have what I think is the first A4 leaflet produced by Tim, that >my wife >>>> brought back from Hypertext 91' in San-Antonio Texas (a conf she >attended as a >>>> Digital engineer working on their own hypertext of that time, >called Memex, >>>> integrated in DecWindows). It has on one side a variation of the >"Web bus" [...] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Shane Hudson (Website Developer - www.ShaneHudson.net) >>> >>> 07794746595 >>> >>> @ShaneHudson / +Shane Hudson >>> >>> >>> >> -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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