Aug 31 Telcon Minutes

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                 WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

31 Aug 2016

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/08/31-webfonts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          RSheeter, ned, jfkthame, kuettel, Vlad, Khaled

   Regrets
   Chair
          vlad

   Scribe
          rsheeter

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Vlad missed YOU
         2. [5]Action Items
         3. [6]Welcome to the wooorld of tomorrow
     * [7]Summary of Action Items
     * [8]Summary of Resolutions
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   I see the Ned!

   <scribe> scribe: rsheeter

Vlad missed YOU

   <ned> sorry, mic problems

   (fun intruded. fun eliminated.)

Action Items

   <Vlad> [9]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open

      [9] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open

   action-199?

   <trackbot> action-199 -- Khaled Hosny Ghetas to Investigate how
   we actually verify at tests, particularly how we verify
   internal handling. -- due 2016-04-20 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/199

     [10] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/199

   <Vlad> subject of 199:
   [11]https://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan20-AuthoringTool#m
   ustEliminateLSBs

     [11] https://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan20-AuthoringTool#mustEliminateLSBs

   Vlad: there was some question of how we "see" what happened
   internally for this test
   ... In a test that validates an hmtx transform, how do we "see"
   into the stream to verify the transform is applied

   jfkthame: We need a custom inspection tool, beyond a decoder,
   to verify

   (discussion of details. tl;dr we have what we need, just a
   question of if it is exposed adequately)

   Vlad: *all* please review test suite to verify it's actually
   verifiable. AT seems particularly likely to be fiddly to
   validate.

   Khaled has been crushing the test suite and has initial impl of
   all of them

   Still have to go through and check each one but CTS for ATypI
   seems plausible

   Vlad: Sick dude.
   ... we need two implementations and it seems like everyone is
   picking up reference impl. We need two to promote to next state
   in W3C process.
   ... Anybody write their own?

   (seems that FF, Chrome, Edge, and Apple all use reference)

   (discussion of what we do if there isn't a second impl)

   Khaled: FontTools has it's own WOFF2 implementation (except
   brotli)

   Second implementation:
   [12]https://github.com/behdad/fonttools/blob/master/Lib/fontToo
   ls/ttLib/woff2.py

     [12] https://github.com/behdad/fonttools/blob/master/Lib/fontTools/ttLib/woff2.py

   Vlad: if we can use it for the test suite it counts

Welcome to the wooorld of tomorrow

   Vlad: What should the future of the group be as WOFF2 winds
   down, shall we make a new charter and if so what should be in
   it
   ... one example idea, js library to do all things to fonts.
   Interesting but unusual for a W3C spec.

   Rod: what if we just specify the js interface to fonts? - js
   lib could be a reference

   Vlad: start thinking, will be a fun topic for face to face

   Ned is IN

   Jfkthame is OUT

   jfkthame: fonttools is out of date, ex no hmtx transform. Needs
   update if it's to be second implementation.

   kuettel: Lets talk logistics! Google is ~10 minutes from
   hotels, we could have lunch!

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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