- From: Behdad Esfahbod <behdad@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:07:23 -0700
- To: Jonathan Kew <jfkthame@gmail.com>
- Cc: Raph Levien <raph@google.com>, "public-webfonts-wg@w3.org" <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAOY=jUQcajhdew+iq0AHKBnW5aP3qrjH5uppj5tw1L3_94ErTQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Kew <jfkthame@gmail.com> wrote: > I just noticed the current list omits the OpenType justification data > table: > JSTF > I assume BASE is included already. > Add the layout tables for SIL's Graphite engine: > Silf > Sill > Gloc > Glat > Feat > > And given that we now have 7 bits rather than 5 to play with, I'd > recommend also including AAT's various tables. At present, only Apple > systems make use of these, but there has been some interest in supporting > AAT fonts more widely (Behdad has talked of adding support in HarfBuzz). So: > I understand so far it has been out of the scope of this working group. But does the WG like to take a stance over what "smart-font" technologies are supported by WOFF2 (OpenType, Graphite2, AAT)? Or explicitly stay agnostic? behdad > acnt > avar > bdat > bhed > bloc > blsn > cvar > fdsc > feat > gvar > just > lcar > mort > morx > opbd > prop > trak > Zapf > (I think this list is pretty complete, but it would be good to check with > Apple's font people whether this is current, or whether any of these may be > obsolete.) > > > The next issue was making the transform mandatory for the glyf and >> loca tables. I'm fine with this. I agree with the principle of making as >> few things optional as possible, unless there really is some compelling >> reason, and don't think non-transformed glyf rises to this level. As >> Vlad pointed out, for use cases that would benefit from lower cost >> processing than WOFF 2 encoding or decoding at the expense of file size, >> WOFF 1 still suffices well. >> > Here, I'm inclined to prefer retaining the optional nature of the > transform. I think the added cost/complexity for implementations is pretty > negligible, and it makes it more realistic to imagine that WOFF2 may - > eventually, over time - serve as a complete replacement for WOFF1, rather > than the two co-existing forever as two distinct formats. > > > The next question was whether to move the table directory inside the >> compression envelope. I'm going to argue against it, but again am very >> open to discussion. >> > I prefer it outside, so that certain higher-level aspects of the font can > be examined before decompressing the Brotli stream. > > > Finally, I want to address a question that came up that I don't >> think are tied to potentially incompatible changes. Vlad asked for a >> justification of the UIntBase128 encoding for lengths. Removing this and >> using 32-bit ULONGS would roughly double the table directory size, >> bringing it from 53 to 98 bytes for the font I measured. If necessary, >> we could run experiments over a larger corpus, but I expect extremely >> little variation. incidentally, removing the "known tags" optimization >> would add 57 bytes (under the conservative assumption that we could get >> rid of the flags byte altogether now). >> > How about revisiting the idea of two versions of the table directory, a > "short" one where all the lengths are USHORT, and a "long" one where > they're ULONG? Small fonts such as those containing just a few glyphs would > be able to use the short format, which should give an overall size very > close to that you get by using UIntBase128, but without the complexity of > that variable-length type; and in large fonts that need the "long" format > for their 'glyf' table (for example), the directory is relatively > insignificant compared to the table payload. > > IMO, that might give virtually the same benefit, without the need to > introduce a more complex data type at this level. > > JK > > >
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