Minutes, 17 Dec 2014 WebFonts WG call

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                 WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

17 Dec 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/12/17-webfonts-irc

Attendees

   Present
          [Google], Vlad, jfkthame, +1.650.253.aaaa, ChrisL

   Regrets
   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR

   Scribe
          RSheeter

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]open action items
         2. [5]Plans for 2015
     * [6]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________

   <trackbot> Date: 17 December 2014

   <John_Hudson> On IRC, but unable to join call at the moment

   <Vlad> Hi John

   <Vlad> scribenick: RSheeter

   all: await Chris with great anticipation

   <ChrisL> j'arrive!

   vlad: need to do long term planning for '15; f2f meetings in
   particular
   ... progress bursty but solid for '14; we are awesome

   DavidK: Firefox Opera and Chrome support woff2; pretty cool!

   Vlad: is convinced woff2 is real :D And happy that ~50% of
   users can use it for real!

open action items

   Vlad: asking about ACTION-116 status

   DavidK: we are exploring options; will discuss more with Chrome
   team

   <ChrisL> action-116?

   <trackbot> action-116 -- David Kuettel to Decoder performance
   analysis on mobile devices -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [7]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/116

      [7] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/116

   action-122?

   <trackbot> action-122 -- Roderick Sheeter to Investigate the
   TTC support as part of the WOFF 2.0 pre-processing mechanism --
   due 2014-10-31 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [8]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/122

      [8] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/122

   RSheeter: impressed at syntax prompts

   <ChrisL> that is part of 122

   Vlad: we include ttc spec updates under action-122

   action-155?

   <trackbot> action-155 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Clarify
   handling of checksum in a font collection -- due 2014-12-10 --
   OPEN

   <trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/155

      [9] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/155

   Vlad: nobody has a definitive answer for how to do checksums
   for collections

   <ChrisL> IP layer already does per packet checking so adding it
   in the app layer has no real value

   <ChrisL> (assuming TCP and not UDP)

   Vlad: impact of wrong checksum is unclear; may need to alter
   spec to clarify

   Raph: why do we care about checksum?

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: decompressor discuses how we rebuild
   checksums so this is in spec

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: it was brought up in context of TTC with
   multiple head tables that the definition in otspec doesn't
   entirely make sense here

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: per-table is definition is fine, we can set
   the correct value, it's just the head table one that is unclear

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: if it doesn't matter, perhaps we can just
   ignore the head table checksum, but it would be nice to have
   some assurance this won't break things.

   <RSheeter_> Raph: consumer probably tears apart and
   re-checksums anyway. Likely that most consumers will fix their
   own checksums and thus we don't have to do anything woff2 spec
   side.

   <RSheeter_> (discussion of whether anything would in fact
   break)

   <ChrisL> what would the google font sanitizer do?

   <RSheeter_> Raph: we need to actually test whether it matters

   <RSheeter_> I don't think OTS supports collections today

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: action-155 moving to be due Jan 14th, 2015

   <RSheeter_> Raph: where's the action item to update spec for
   TTC?

   <RSheeter_> (I also would like a new action for spec update for
   ttc)

   <RSheeter_> Raph: goes all Canadian on us and apologizes

   <RSheeter_> Raph: will take action to write spec for next call
   (expected Jan 7th)

   <RSheeter_> action Raph Draft spec update for TTC support

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Draft spec update for ttc
   support [on Raph Levien - due 2014-12-24].

   <RSheeter_> it's like magic!

   <RSheeter_> close action-122 with prejudice

   <RSheeter_> close action-122

   <trackbot> Closed action-122.

   <RSheeter_> action-129?

   <trackbot> action-129 -- David Kuettel to Prepare a mime type
   application draft and justification for top-level "font"
   registration (with Vlad) -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/129

     [10] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/129

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: tests David's passion

   <RSheeter_> David: is still passionate

   <RSheeter_> action-133?

   <trackbot> action-133 -- Raph Levien to Review the spec edits
   and finalize the definition of the "nominal size" -- due
   2014-10-15 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/133

     [11] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/133

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: isn't sorry. It's all Canadianism day!

   <RSheeter_> Raph: took many vacations already, doesn't need any
   more!

   <RSheeter_> are date changes also magic commands?

   <RSheeter_> (Vlad is editing in a manner that suggests not)

   <RSheeter_> action-145?

   <trackbot> action-145 -- Roderick Sheeter to check padding and
   alignment in reference implementation -- due 2014-09-21 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/145

     [12] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/145

   <RSheeter_> close action-145

   <trackbot> Closed action-145.

   <RSheeter_> action-146?

   <trackbot> action-146 -- Chris Lilley to Use ietf-w3c liaison
   to get review and guidance for next steps on brotli id -- due
   2014-09-23 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/146

     [13] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/146

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: do we have a reviewer or date?

   <ChrisL> I think we were keeping ACTION-146 open until we
   achieves success

   <RSheeter_> DavidK: we are looking to have Mark Adler review
   and write an independent implementation starting January

   <RSheeter_> (discussion of independent implementation [of
   decoder] idea; consensus that it would be awesome)

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: set most actions due Jan 14

   <RSheeter_> action-148?

   <trackbot> action-148 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Review and
   edit the conformance test for extraneous data -- due 2015-01-14
   -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/148

     [14] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/148

   <RSheeter_> action-153?

   <trackbot> action-153 -- Raph Levien to Work with vlad to
   clarify all uses of original length -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/153

     [15] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/153

   <RSheeter_> Raph: 133 and 153 updates should fly together

Plans for 2015

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: when spec is done we can go to last call.
   Potentially end of January. We should make it happen!

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: are we all set to make Khaled Hosny an
   invited expert?

   <RSheeter_> ChrisL: he should have received invitation

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: probably we'll have to adjust things as we go
   through CTS; f2f would be helpful and ATypeI isn't until late
   in year

   <RSheeter_> (discussion of time/venue for f2f earlier in year)

   <RSheeter_> DavidK: Google can host if there isn't a better
   alternative

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: May seems like a good ballpark time

   <RSheeter_> Vlad: primary goal of May f2f would be to checkup
   on CTS and spec status

   <John_Hudson> If looking for early f2f opportunity, RoboFont is
   in The Hague in March.

   <ChrisL> Topic implementations

   <RSheeter_> Jonathan: in FF nightly and aurora, probably dev
   edition too

   <RSheeter_> Jonathan: disabled on beta and release as yet

   <RSheeter_> Google Fonts: we are serving woff2 to Firefox 35+

   <RSheeter_> Happy Holidays are deployed!

Summary of Action Items

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Best regards,
 Chris Lilley, Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain

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