Re: Reporting my findings on MIME types (action 120)

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Joe Vieira <joe@myfonts.com> wrote:

> Vlad thanks for digging those up, good reading. The 2009 draft is a pretty
> reasonable looking draft, it seems like it was simply before it's time.
>
> I would be in favor of modifying and resubmitting.
>
> David, I'm happy to help gather some data about MIME type issues, and
> assist in anyway I can. I am curious what data we think is collectable /
> worth collecting about the problems.
>

Thank you Joe!  It would be great to collaborate on this front.

At this moment, I am unsure of what data would win the ISO organization
over.  Perhaps however, data along the lines of: the number of web pages
using web fonts along with an estimation of the % of integrations serving
the font with the wrong (or non-optimal) mime-type.

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> Defining the scope of the issue does seem to make sense as then we would
> be working to solve a tangible issue.
>
> Joe
>
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> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:43 AM, David Kuettel <kuettel@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Vlad, this is incredibly helpful!
>>
>> What would you suggest as a next step for us?  Should we explore
>> resubmitting the earlier proposals, submitting new ones, or first gathering
>> hard data on how widespread the problem is?
>>
>> Gathering the data could take time (esp. as we would need to prioritize
>> it among all of our other outstanding projects), but perhaps could make all
>> of the difference this time around.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Levantovsky, Vladimir <
>> Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Folks,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I was able to dig up some old stuff on MIME type registration for fonts.
>>> The last attempt to register a top-level “font” type was initiated in 2004
>>> with the draft submitted by David Singer (see attached), needless to say
>>> that it failed and the efforts were abandoned c.a. 2007. In the end of 2008
>>> the WebFonts WG has prepared filing for “application/font-woff” type which
>>> has been registered as soon as WOFF 1.0 spec went to PR (I think), and in
>>> 2009 I put together a draft (attached) for “application/font-sfnt” type (as
>>> part of ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF amendment) that was registered in 2012 once
>>> the ISO amendment was finalized.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> There was a discussion in 2012 specific about media type registrations
>>> in general (and “font” as a top-level type in particular) on the IETF
>>> reflector (I believe it was Martin Dürst who raised the issue at that time)
>>> that kind of prompted the discussion about font types and it was hinted
>>> that the condition are now more favorable to having a new top level type
>>> registered, but nothing has been done since then. Martin and I had an
>>> off-list conversation about preparing the new draft for top level font
>>> registration but we didn’t get to actually doing it.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I believe this is really it, I heard there had been prior attempts to
>>> register font MIME types in the past but I have not been able to find
>>> anything else on the subject.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thank you,****
>>>
>>> Vlad****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
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