Telcon minutes, Nov. 20

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                 WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

20 Nov 2013

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2013/11/20-webfonts-irc

Attendees

   Present
   Regrets
   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR

   Scribe
          cslye

Contents

     * [3]Topics
     * [4]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 20 November 2013

   <Vlad> scribe: cslye

   kuettel: Updates from Google

   <scribe> New Brotli version pushed out.

   and WOFF2 tools

   Asking about interest in re-running compression tests for
   stats.

   <kuettel> Link to the Font Compression Reference project with
   the new conversion tool with Brotli:

   <kuettel>
   [5]https://code.google.com/p/font-compression-reference/

      [5] https://code.google.com/p/font-compression-reference/

   kuettel: Will post new instructions for tools.

   Now changed from Java to C++

   Vlad: TPAC news...

   Spoke of involving Larry Masinter of Adobe.

   about media types.

   Vlad spoke informally to Larry.

   Larry asks what we want to get out of a new media type.

   How far we get is dependent on how we answer the question.

   Getting a good story together is the first important task.

   Vlad: Plan to use new compression technology in WOFF2, IETF
   might be a good place to put it.

   IETF is maybe not a good place for a standards track document.

   Lack of compression experts or other interest there might be
   bad for it.

   ISO might be better?

   Where do most compression standards exist?

   ZLIP Compressed Data format is IETF.

   <jfkthame> [6]http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1950

      [6] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1950

   Spec there is "information only".

   ZLIB seems legitimate enough, so it just depends on people
   being comfortable with IETF as a vehicle.

   If it starts as info only, it could move to standards track
   later.

   Vlad: The lack of process complexity makes it easier to
   publish.

   jfkthame: More formal process might help with comfort around
   patents.

   Vlad: ISO has experts which will better-vet the technology and
   IP.

   cslye: How do we decide which avenue to take?

   Vlad: Best that WG members talk to colleagues and bring back an
   opinion/preference.
   ... will check with Chris L.

   jfkthame: What's the best ISO channel?

   Vlad: MPEG committee. Knows compression.

   Some overlap between MPEG and JPEG committees.

   jfkthame: Less experience with lossless compression?

   Vlad: Not a big deal. One stage of larger compression picture.
   ... No urgent need to decide. Just something to think about and
   discuss.
   ... Did Google have any advice for IETF?

   kuettel: Nothing yet. Maybe next week.
   ... Might have an update in two weeks.

   John_Hudson: Size specific design selection, related to
   web/CSS...

   Microsoft published OS/2 proposal.

   jfkthame: Probably best discussed in CSS WG.

   Vlad: Should we have a call on the 27th?

   No interest. Will cancel call.

   Vlad: Would like to see more activity on the email list.

   cslye: Bram Stein from Adobe Typekit is now WG member.

Summary of Action Items

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