- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:19:00 +0200
- To: public-webfonts-wg@w3.org
Hello public-webfonts-wg,
Minutes of todays call at
http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html
and below as text
WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
01 Jun 2011
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-irc
Attendees
Present
Vlad, Jonathan, Christopher, John, Chris
Regrets
Sylvain, jdaggett, Tab
Chair
Vlad
Scribe
ChrisL
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Last Call disposition of comments
2. [5]Open Action Items
3. [6]Progressing to Candidate Rec
4. [7]f2f at typecon
* [8]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 01 June 2011
<scribe> scribenick: ChrisL
Vlad: want to finalise last call and agree to move to candidate rec
Last Call disposition of comments
[9]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html
[9] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html
ChrisL: I18n was waiting for our specific text before agreeing. I
sent some emails pointing to edits that had been done
[10]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-15
[10] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-15
ChrisL: we agreed to more clearly indicate the content models. need
to agre on text
jfkthame: some new text after description of div and span element
... seems to address this coment. Could add expected children
ChrisL: could add to all the elements their expected children
[11]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-32
[11] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-32
[12]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-16
[12] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-16
[13]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/9
[13] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/9
"The automatic removal of OpenType features such as GPOS and GSUB
information at any stage in the process of deploying a WOFF file is
strongly discouraged. Many writing systems around the world rely on
these features for very basic display of text in the script that
they use."
ChrisL: general guidance not conformance
Vlad: they suggest end of section 5 for that note
jfkthame: could add as informative note
... out of scope as a conformance requirement, but fine as an
informative note
Vlad: god to add it as a note for implementors to pay attention to
[14]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-34
[14] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-34
has the edit been done for that?
jfkthame: not sure (checks)
... yes it is there, section 4
Vlad: "searchRange, entrySelector, and rangeShift" are the ones
cited
... need to add normative reference
jfkthame: yes
Vlad: sergey wanted these as conformance requirements
"And second, conformance requirements have to mention that these
fields should be correct in original font to ensure complete
roundtrip."
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0005.htm
l
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0005.html
We were asked to remove the sumary of conformance requirements or to
clearly indicate they are informative
jfkthame: what do we want to do? it was specifically requested.
... could clearly see its an informative summary
Vlad: danger is that we miss keeping them in sync. prefer to drop it
ChrisL: agree
jfkthame: early in WG discussions we agreed to have a concie summary
Vlad: worried that we miss something or that people only read the
summary
ChrisL: what about the three notes? Should they be relocated?
ACTION jfkthame to remove Summary of Conformance Requirements,
relocating any notes that seem valuable to keep
<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Remove Summary of Conformance
Requirements, relocating any notes that seem valuable to keep [on
Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].
Vlad: second note is not so valuable. First and third are
... add third to end of section 6
... last one belongs in metadata section
ChrisL: will send folow up emails informing commentors of todays
decisions
Vlad: ok so DoC is done, pending responses from I18n
Open Action Items
ACTION-62: Modify spec text re. div and span in text elements
<trackbot> ACTION-62 Modify spec text re. div and span in text
elements notes added
Vlad: seems logical to add to description of text element. but
putting it before extension element i seems out of place
ChrisL: seemed clear enouh to me
jfkthame: how avout putting it at end after extension element
Vlad: seems to interrupt the flow of the description
jfkthame: arguments against several options
Vlad: proposed in email was to append to 'may be localised' and put
div and span right before that.
cslye: sounds good
Vlad: jfkthame its up to you
jfkthame: cslye which ioption sounded good?
<cslye> after extension element.
Vlad: it would be fine after the extension element
jfkthame: close and add new action
close action-62
<trackbot> ACTION-62 Modify spec text re. div and span in text
elements closed
<scribe> ACTION: jfkthame to relocate text describing div and span
[recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Relocate text describing div and span
[on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].
action-74?
<trackbot> ACTION-74 -- Chris Lilley to update disposition of
comments -- due 2011-02-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/74
[17] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/74
ChrisL: keep open untilwe are done
action-76?
<trackbot> ACTION-76 -- Maciej Stachowiak to ask apple about
proposed FO solution -- due 2011-02-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/76
[18] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/76
close action-76
<trackbot> ACTION-76 Ask apple about proposed FO solution closed
Vlad: apple will give resources to develop From-Origin
action-81?
<trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Jonathan Kew to provide link for issue-34 --
due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/81
[19] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/81
this is the link to the OT spec
for earchRange, entrySelector, and rangeShift
jfkthame: relaod, i just commited an edit with that
close action-81
<trackbot> ACTION-81 Provide link for issue-34 closed
ChrisL: can we change 'are expected to' to 'SHOULD'
<scribe> ACTION: jfkthame to move BCP47 to normative and change are
expected to to SHOULD [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Move BCP47 to normative and change
are expected to to SHOULD [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].
action-83?
<trackbot> ACTION-83 -- Chris Lilley to to add div and span to RNG
-- due 2011-04-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/83
[21] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/83
ChrisL: in progress
Progressing to Candidate Rec
Vlad: once these edits are done and DoC up to date as agreed, can we
agree to move to CR?
(no objections)
<scribe> ACTION: jfkthame to add expected children of all metadata
elements [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Add expected children of all metadata
elements [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].
Resolved: move to Candidate Recommendation once these edits are done
f2f at typecon
Vlad: not enouh participants for a meeting aty typecon
<cslye> Vlad, at your convenience can you summarize who in the WG
will be at TypeCon?
Vlad: next steps are checking the test suite and creating an
implementation report
then we get to PR
scribe: depends on CSS WG due to SOR dependency
<John> [Sorry I'm late]
Vlad (explains CR)
Vlad: EPUB wants to reference WOFF so they need it to be in CR
John: f2f?
Vlad: few confirmed attendees and several regrets
... so no meeting at typecon
adjourned
Vlad: travel next week. Do we need a telcon?
June 8 telcon cancelled
John: FAQ updated?
ChrisL: reall soon now (been ill)
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: jfkthame to add expected children of all metadata
elements [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: jfkthame to move BCP47 to normative and change are
expected to to SHOULD [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: jfkthame to relocate text describing div and span
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain
W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
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