- From: Tal Leming <tal@typesupply.com>
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:10:13 -0500
- To: WOFF Working Group FONT <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>
Minutes at http://www.w3.org/2011/01/26-webfonts-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
26 Jan 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2011Jan/0024.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/26-webfonts-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Tal, ChrisL, Sylvain
Chair
Vlad
Scribe
Tal
Contents
* [4]Topics
* [5]Summary of Action Items
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<Vlad> rrsagent help
<Vlad> trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Date: 26 January 2011
<Vlad> Chair Vlad
<jfkthame> vlad, i'm only catching 50% of what you're saying, at
best
<erik> I'm calling in on skype, I can't actually make out anyone,
sorry.
Reviewing open actions.
<Vlad> action 56?
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
<Vlad> action-56?
<trackbot> ACTION-56 -- Jonathan Kew to tag wrng size compressed
meta as a ua assert -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [6]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/56
[6] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/56
<Vlad> action-56: pending
<trackbot> ACTION-56 Tag wrng size compressed meta as a ua assert
notes added
Changed Action-56 to "pending review."
Action-60 can be closed.
Discussion about Action-62.
Will pick up later or discuss later.
Discussion about the meaning Action-66.
Action-69 can be closed. Vlad completed this one.
Discussion of comments from Bert Bos.
[7]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0009.html
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0009.html
Point 1: Vlad asked for clarification.
Håkon: agrees with Bert's comment.
Thinks that the comment is about SOR and relates to recent
discussion on list.
Vlad: not sure that it is about SOR.
Håkon: Thinks that there is not yet a consensus on SOR.
Håkon: WOFF would have a better shot at interoperability if there is
consensus on SOR.
Vlad: We should discuss this but not today as we are discussion
Bert's comments.
Discussion about when to discuss SOR.
Håkon: We don't have all browser vendors here.
Tal: They have been invited. It is their responsibility to call in.
Vald: This is not on the agenda for the day. Let's discuss this
later.
Vlad: THis will be a detailed discussion so let's set up a call
specifically for this topic.
Back to Bert's comments.
Point 2:
Vlad: We agree with Bert that we have made the intro as clear as we
can. Any other comments for making it even more clear are welcome.
Vald: "Despite this name, WOFF should be regarded as a container
format or "wrapper" for font data in already-existing formats rather
than an actual font format in its own right."
Vlad: Perhaps add "Despite the name, WOFF is not a new font format
and should be regarded as..."
Christopher: Thinks that the language is clear enough as is.
Jonathan: No strong view either way. Doesn't mind changing it but
isn't sure that any value will be added.
Vlad: Should we create an action item to review the first paragraph
of the introduction?
Christopher: Bert's comment was "it sounds good" so why are we
discussing changing it?
Vlad: This one particular sentence could be more specific.
Point 3:
Jonathan: His original tool, and the spec, did not pad. Not sure
when the optional padding made it into the spec.
Vlad: Any objections to wat Bert proposes?
Tal: If we make that SHOULD a MUST, would a UA have to test and
reject?
Jonathan: UA could test with the header length of file and length of
block.
Vlad and Tal: Would that contradict the "Private Data should not
effect the font data..." section of the spec?
Jonathan: This would be a problem with the header, not the private
data.
... UA could do simple sanity checks on header fields.
Vlad: Does that need to be mentioned in the header?
Jonathan: Reads spec. We already call for the UA to check those
offsets.
Vlad: Should we not mention padding the private data?
Jonathan: We could repeat that the end of the private data block
must be the end of the file.
Vlad: Agrees with Jonathan.
Tal: Agrees.
<Vlad> Scribe: Tal
Action Jonathan Replace last sentence of section 7: End of Private
Data block must correspond with the end of the last file.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-70 - Replace last sentence of section 7:
End of Private Data block must correspond with the end of the last
file. [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-02-02].
<Vlad> Scribenick: tal
Discussion on if this should apply to the metadata block as well.
Vlad: Metadata section is clear.
Point 4:
Vlad: Can anyone clarify what this means?
Action Chris Clarify Bert Bos' Point 4
<trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Clarify Bert Bos' Point 4 [on Chris
Lilley - due 2011-02-02].
Point 5:
Vlad: not sure how useful it would be to not store origLength.
Jonathan: UA needs to know original length to allocate buffer
otherwise it is more cumbersome to decode.
Action Jonathan Respond to Bert Bos' Point 5.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Respond to Bert Bos' Point 5. [on
Jonathan Kew - due 2011-02-02].
Sergey: origLength is also useful for recreating table directory.
... Mentions email to list that has not been discussed:
[8]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0005.html
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0005.html
Tal: This can be created dynamically.
Sergey: Yes. We should mention this in the spec.
Summary of Action Items
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