- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:53:23 +0100
- To: public-webfonts-wg@w3.org
Hello public-webfonts-wg, Minutes are here http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-webfonts-minutes.html and below as text for tracker. WebFonts Working Group Teleconference 01 Dec 2010 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-webfonts-irc Attendees Present Tal, ChrisL, +1.978.790.aaaa, Vlad Regrets Chair vlad Scribe chrisl Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]epub update 2. [5]woff metadata comments 3. [6]test plan issues * [7]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 01 December 2010 I started on a disposition of comments [8]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html [8] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html <tal> I had some phone trouble this morning, maybe zakim got confused by me calling in twice? <erik> I'm not able to call in today. I'll follow on IRC. Vlad: having internet issues, will join shortly epub update <scribe> scribenick: chrisl Vlad: strong interest in woff support from many participants, but Adobe representative is against WOFF for epub ... if publishers want it, they will add it ... waiting for response from internal Adobe discussions. May be opposition was based on resource issues woff metadata comments <tal> [9]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html [9] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html ChrisL: extensibility via namespaces is good for totally open extensibility tal: we dont want it totally open ended Vlad: want to not deviate too much from the original, and widely deployed, submission. This would be a breaking change ... and we do have an extensibility element tal: fontshop and others are using woff with metadata - making all of those invalid is a problem ChrisL: (explains last call process on getting a response back from commentor) Vlad: dont like a breaking change ... dont want to invalidate the usage of early adopters <scribe> ACTION: chris to respond to erik muller on namespaces in metadata [recorded in [10]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Respond to erik muller on namespaces in metadata [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-12-08]. <scribe> ACTION: chris to respond to erik muller on pronunciation and sorting [recorded in [11]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Respond to erik muller on pronunciation and sorting [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-12-08]. ChrisL: adding @url to license text elements is a good idea (generally seem to be in favour of separate urls for license elements) Vlad: additional metadata does not override the license Vlad; link can point to a page with multiple further links ChrisL: woff benefit is being explicit on license. prefer to have option for separate ones Vlad: will discuss with Monotype legal tal: nothing changes for existing users. it adds options ChrisL: important that this is not a breaking change Vlad: easier for distributors to use a single place provided by the font owner tal: mentioned that url at top of license, so should allow to have no text below. some foundries want just a link, no text. ChrisL: please send that as a separate comment Vlad: spec is clear that the text in a license element is about the license, not a copy of the license ... better to have some text, for users tal: made some fonts for a foundry and they said that they wanted just a url, no text ... spec currently says we need both ... should it be either/or ChrisL: seems more reasonable to me test plan issues tal: do we neeed null bytes. some things like that came up in the test plan, they are in red [12]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan-UserAgent [12] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan-UserAgent tal: in the process of doing the test plan, multiple spec read-thoughs turned up some issues. ... some are clear, like the file has to be long enough to contain the header ... if the flavour is in contradiction with the actual table data. spec is silent on that. ChrisL: there are multiple flavours for truetype tal: thses have caused problems for text engines before Vlad: packaging mechanism is separate - if you package a broken thing, the package is not at fault tal: jdaggett said list them all, so i did Vlad: think that particular one is out of scope tal: its additional tests Vlad: may cross boundary between packaging and font sanitising ChrisL: these are good for a validator, but in spme cases its not the woff spec that is violated but the OT spec tal: some t=of these are crashing bugs for certain OS ... number of tables, needs to be parseable ... some are tagged as format bit also need to be UA conformance as well ... read the wiki pages Vlad: anything here needs more discussion? tal: tried to be very clear Vlad: lets discuss on email and make resolutions next week on the red items [13]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan-Format [13] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan-Format tal: have worked on infrastructure for tests ... have been reading the css testsuite documentation adjourned (general appreciation for tal's work) Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: chris to respond to erik muller on namespaces in metadata [recorded in [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: chris to respond to erik muller on pronunciation and sorting [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action02] [End of minutes] -- Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
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