- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:49:54 -0400
- To: Rick Byers <rbyers@google.com>, Sangwhan Moon <smoon@opera.com>
- CC: "public-webevents@w3.org" <public-webevents@w3.org>, Christophe Jolif <christophe.jolif@fr.ibm.com>, Sebastien Pereira <spereira@fr.ibm.com>
I created a wiki doc with the information I sent in my original email on this thread, plus the first point in Sangwhan's proposal: A few of us (Rich, Sangwhan and I) briefly discussed Sangwhan's second proposal in IRC and we agree not to include that because it is mostly a separate subject. Comments from all are welcome and feel free to edit the document directly: <http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/DraftTouchEventsCG> -Thanks, ArtB On 10/23/13 11:53 AM, ext Rick Byers wrote: > Your proposal looks good to me - thanks Art! My list of specific > topics doesn't need to be definitive though - others should feel free > to add/remove/replace, they're just the things on the top of my mind... > > Inline: > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Sangwhan Moon <smoon@opera.com > <mailto:smoon@opera.com>> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Arthur Barstow > <art.barstow@nokia.com <mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com>> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Here is my straw-man proposal for the three boilerplate items > that need to be defined when the new Community Group is > proposed. You'll notice the Group Description borrows heavily > from Rick's feedback on the CfC. > > 1. Name: "Touch Events" i.e. "Touch Events Community Group". > > 2. Group Description: > > [[ > The Touch Events community group was formed by members of the > Web Events Working Group (responsible for the Touch Events > specification) and the Pointer Events Working Group > (responsible for the Pointer Events spec). The group's focus > is differences in touch event behavior between browsers. The > group seeks to form consensus on the best approaches for > interoperability outside of what's already standardized. > > Among the topics in scope for this group: > > * Defining how touch-action should be implemented in browsers > that > support touch events; see [1]. > > * Defining the "right" TouchEvent / PointerEvent interaction > for both > browsers and pointer event polyfills; see [2]. > > * Trying to form consensus on how exactly browsers should > behave in > sending touch events when scrolling stars (f.ex. see the > following > public-webevents thread [3]). > > * Identifying other differences that exist between these events. > > * Discussing problems web/framework developers have with the > design of > touch events; see [4]. > > Additionally, the group will define "mappings" between Touch > Events and Pointer Events" (f.ex. see [5]). The group also > expects to make proposals for potential future standards. > > [1] > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CV2AXyrdPdGSRypAQcfGrgQVuWYi50EzTmVsMLWgRPM/> > [2] > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sasl1qYJV6agrDvGplEYlZznzc38U-TFN_3a67-nlSc/> > [3] > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2013AprJun/0040.html> > [4] > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/12-HPlSIF7-ISY8TQHtuQ3IqDi-isZVI0Yzv5zwl90VU/> > [5] < > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvdBn9Kvx22qdGRnRXNPb0ZBTUl3SEkwdUdtaW9pWWc&usp=sharing> > ]] > > 3. Short name: "touchevents"; this will be used for things > like the mail list name (e.g. public-touchevents) and the > group's home page e.g. (w3.org/community/touchevents/ > <http://w3.org/community/touchevents/>). > > Comments, corrections, alternate proposals as well as +1's for > all of the above are welcome but please reply by October 25. > > Note that after the CG is proposed, at least 4 other people > with W3C accounts must register their support for the CG in > order for it to be created. As such, I will notify this list > and the public-pointerevents list after I submit the proposal. > > Assuming the CG is created, the details of how the group > actually operates (f.ex. if a `charter` is created or not), > the group's scope, schedule, deliverables, work mode, etc. is > left for the group to decide. (FWIW, my current expectation is > that I will join the group and that others will lead/chair > the group.) > > > Instead of covering just touch-pointer mappings, can we cover > touch-pointer-mouse relations altogether? PE only covers > pointer-mouse and TE only covers touch-mouse (non-normative). > > > Agreed, this is important (and really one of the trickiest points of > touch/pointer interop). > > Additionally it would be really awesome if we could cover how > pseudo-pointers (key only navigation via spatial navigation and/or > caret browsing, virtual mouse) should behave, since that's not > covered/standardized anywhere and most of the compatibility event > firing has been implemented based on ad-hoc testing. > > > I agree we should have a place to discuss that, but I'm worried that > would broaden the scope of this group too far - potentially reducing > it's value. I'd prefer to keep this group scoped to issues that > involve touch events in some form. > > -- > Sangwhan Moon [Opera Software ASA] > Software Engineer | Tokyo, Japan > >
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