- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:14:56 -0400
- To: "public-webevents@w3.org" <public-webevents@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the June 12 voice conference are available at the following and copied below: http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-webevents-minutes.html WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send them to the public-webevents mail list before June 19. In the absence of any changes, these minutes will be considered approved. -Thanks, AB [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Web Events WG Voice Conference 12 Jun 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012AprJun/0008.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-webevents-irc Attendees Present Art_Barstow, Cathy_Chan, Doug_Schepers, Scott_Gonzαlez, Rick_Byers, Sangwhan_Moon, Matt_Brubeck Regrets Chair Art Scribe Art Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Tweak Agenda 2. [6]Announcements 3. [7]Update on Touch Events PAG 4. [8]Status of IndieUI Task Force 5. [9]AoB * [10]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB <scribe> Scribe: Art Date: 12 June 2012 Tweak Agenda AB: I posted a draft agenda yesterday [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012Ap rJun/0008.html. Any change requests? [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012AprJun/0008.html. Announcements AB: any short announcements for today? The only one I had is that the IndieUI WG has finally started [12]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/indie-ui-charter and we will talk about its Task Force with WebEvents WG during today's meeting. ... any other announcements? [12] http://www.w3.org/2012/05/indie-ui-charter RB: I work for Google lead a team here one item is adding touch to Chrome and want to do it in a standard way would be best if the TE spec was already a Recommendation would like to add semantics on top of the Touch API AB: thanks Rick and welcome to the group Update on Touch Events PAG AB: The Touch Events PAG [13]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/touch-pag-charter had a call last week for the first time since April [14]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-te-pag/. ... the set of disclosures [15]http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/45559/status#current-disc losures is one patent and five patent applications, all from Apple. ... the PAG's discussions are all Member confidential. [13] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/touch-pag-charter [14] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-te-pag/. [15] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/45559/status#current-disclosures DS: WGs do not discuss specific patents and we will not do so today PAGs, however, are the right place to discuss patents PAGs look at the disclosed patents and/or patent applications and ultimately, the PAG makes a recommendation to the WG on what to do next Among the possible recommendations are: proceed with the spec as is, change the spec, stop the work, etc. [ Art and Doug summarized the Member-confidential discussions of the PAG ] <sangwhan> [16]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7479257/pointevents_strawman.txt [16] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7479257/pointevents_strawman.txt Status of IndieUI Task Force AB: as previously announced ( [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012Ap rJun/0001.html), the IndieUI Task Force (TF) [18]http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/IUITF had its first call on June 6 [19]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/06-indie-ui-minutes.html. ... the IndieUI WG is under the Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI). AFAIU, it is the first WG within WAI to do its technical work in Public. ... as described in the IndieUI WG's charter [20]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/indie-ui-charter#deliverables, a joint WG TF is used to make provide flexibility for Members that may have some IP/patents in this area. ... anyone in the WebEvents WG may participate in this TF but you have to ask Doug to register you. I agreed to do some "recruiting" within this WG so please consider joining this TF and telling other people about it. I think the work is going to be very interesting and useful. ... the TF will work on two specs: 1) IndieUI User Events; 2) IndieUI User Context. Based on discussion during the TF's June 6 call, my expectation is that at least Apple will provide input(s) for the User Events spec and that at least IBM will provide inputs for the User Context. ... any questions, comments, concerns, etc. re this TF? ... I want to push the TF to make Calls for Input for the 2 specs ... any questions, comments, concerns, etc. re this TF? [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012AprJun/0001.html) [18] http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/IUITF [19] http://www.w3.org/2012/06/06-indie-ui-minutes.html. [20] http://www.w3.org/2012/05/indie-ui-charter#deliverables SM: I don't think there are enough browser vendors participating DS: yes, I can understand that concern but Apple is of course a browser vendor I think people familiar with API design and implementation would be welcome in the TF RB: I am interested but not sure on the time commitment A11Y is important to us If can do something like "capture the semantics of zooming" then I'd be very interested and could help get an implementation into Webkit and Chrome Gestures like rotate are important too We need standards for this AB: I think Doug and I have an ongoing action to keep the WebEvents WG up to date on the status of the TF RB: theres' a lot of stuff that could be done in this area so some prioritization work needs to be done AB: agree and I think the TF already had some discusssion about the need for UCs and Requirements DS: good point it needs to get on the agenda for a TF call as that will help with the prioritization We will get to UCs and Reqs in an upcoming TF meeting AB: yes, that's an important task for Doug and I to push Sangwhan, I agree with the concern about browser vendors DS: remember, one can join the TF and lurk Since there are Joint deliverables, if IndieUI specs are important, it makes sense to join the TF RB: thanks for the feedback on the participation I was concerned about overcommitment DS: I don't think that will be a problem Do you agree Art? AB: yes RB: I was concerned about the Good Standing requirement DS: I will push back about the GS requirement AB: I have already pushed back about the GS requirement <mbrubeck1> Also, if you are going to miss a telcon (or have just missed one) you can send regrets by email instead. AB: do you know Matt if Mozilla is interested in IndieUI? MB: yes, there is interest DS: we would love to have implementers involved AB: +1 to what Doug said CC: is Microsoft a member of the IndieUI WG? AB: no, not at the moment AoB AB: then next call will be when there is a need for a meeting ... anything else for today? RB: has there been discussion about what a browser should do to emulate a touch? MB: we talked about that a little there is a little non-normative info about that and deliberately vague until implementers can give us something more concrete to say RB: I don't think we have enough data either but will be difficult to write apps to handle mouse and touch events MB: we do have some info in the spec about the start and stop events RB: we have some apps that break when touch and mouse events are used together RIM uses a meta tag to help with this problem SM: think moving to a unified event model makes sense SG: agree we need to move to a unified event model DS: yes, moving to something like Msft's pointer model may be good or to see what Sangwhan has specified RB: so, it's good to see this is in scope for the WebEvents WG DS: good to have more implementers MB: yes, and getting someone from Android browser would be good too RB: I can try to find the right person SM: if anyone has comments on my proposal or the Msft pointer model, that would be great ... fyi, Anders_Hφckersten left Opera AB: meeting adjourned Summary of Action Items [End of minutes]
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