WebCrypto March 7th meeting minutes

It appears it wasn't logged properly, so putting it in email. We see if
we can fix later. -harry

chair: Virginie
scribe: Rob_Trace
[15:11] <Rob_Trace> Testing Status: hhalpin
[15:12] <Rob_Trace> Various expressions of interest on implementing
tests. conflict of time for the meeting.
[15:13] <Rob_Trace> Attempting to schedule a training for implementing
tests.
[15:13] * hhalpin typing '...'
[15:14] <Rob_Trace> Ryan Hurst moving to Google, no longer able to
contribute testings
[15:14] <Rob_Trace> Jim: has submitted a pull request for
tests.  Interested in contrubuting.
[15:15] <Rob_Trace> March 14th 8:00am PST training.
[15:15] <Rob_Trace> Do not forget daylight savings time on March 13th
[15:17] <Rob_Trace> After training, we can then create a plan for
dividing up the work.
[15:17] <Rob_Trace> Action: send an invitation to training.
[15:17] * trackbot is creating a new ACTION.
[15:17] <trackbot> Error finding 'send'. You can review and register
nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/users>
<http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/users%3E>.
[15:18] <hhalpin> ACTION: hhalpin to send out invite for testing, try
8:00 AM March
[15:18] * trackbot is creating a new ACTION.
[15:18] <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Send out invite for testing, try
8:00 am march [on Harry Halpin - due 2016-03-14].
[15:18] * hhalpin quick note Rob_Trace, try typing "hhalpin: Various"
[15:18] * hhalpin then "... : Ryan Hurst is
[15:19] <Rob_Trace> Ask:  share implementation roadmaps
[15:19] * hhalpin "virginie: March 14th 8:00 AM"
[15:20] <Rob_Trace> Firefox: implemented all algorithsms that they plan
to support
[15:21] <Rob_Trace> Missing pieces, PCKS8 support for ecdsa
[15:21] <hhalpin> q+
[15:21] * Zakim sees hhalpin, wseltzer on the speaker queue
[15:21] <jimsch> q+
[15:21] * Zakim sees hhalpin, wseltzer, jimsch on the speaker queue
[15:21] <hhalpin> CONCAT? Which algorithms do you not plan to implement?
[15:22] <jimsch> CONCAT has been removed from the current spec
[15:22] <ttaubert> CONCAT, AES-CMAC, RSA PKCS#1 v1.5, AES-CFB
[15:23] <hhalpin> and PKCS8 support for ECDH
[15:23] <ttaubert> (EC)DH
[15:24] <Rob_Trace> On workers, Planning on implementing, there are
still some places where spec is not clear.
[15:25] <Rob_Trace> Bi-weekly is OK for Mozilla.
[15:25] <virginie> q?
[15:25] * Zakim sees hhalpin, wseltzer, jimsch on the speaker queue
[15:26] <hhalpin> q- hhalpin
[15:26] * Zakim sees wseltzer, jimsch on the speaker queue
[15:26] <hhalpin> q- wseltzer
[15:26] * Zakim sees jimsch on the speaker queue
[15:26] <hhalpin> +1 Jim's suggestion to use IETF HKDF
[15:26] <jimsch> Which IETF or the NIST version of HKDF.
[15:27] <hhalpin> We need to fix the reference in the spec to match the
IETF spec
[15:27] <jimsch> q-
[15:27] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:27] <jimsch> I can create a pull request for this
[15:27] <hhalpin> I think Jim already opened this bug
[15:27] <Rob_Trace> HKDF implemented to IETF specification
[15:27] <hhalpin> but a pull request on spec is good
[15:28] <jimsch> THis is bug 27425
[15:29] <ttaubert> can I contribute to the spec by creating PRs and
markw merging them?
[15:31] <Rob_Trace> Microsoft: question on current specification
standardization and algorithm support.
[15:31] <virginie> harry : suggest that we remove the algorithms from
the spec to park them in a Note, in case it is implemented later
[15:31] <Rob_Trace> The process for WebCrypto would be to move
algorithms that do not have 2 implementations will be moved to optional.
[15:33] <Rob_Trace> Looking to get a snapshot of document that does not
change.  then enter a edited candidate phase for changing spec.
[15:36] <Rob_Trace> requirement is to mark what is inter-operable and
what is not.  Do not want to lose text, just make a declaration about
what needs to work.
[15:37] <Rob_Trace> Microsoft; we do not have a roadmap out past 12
months.  it is open what will be implemetned in the long term.
[15:39] <Rob_Trace> Come back in 2 weeks to discuss what is not
implemented and may be moved to optional.
[15:39] <virginie> q?
[15:39] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
[15:40] <Rob_Trace> There is pressure to deliver something.  Asked for 6
month extension, but need to deliver final spec to ecosystem
[15:41] <Rob_Trace> Need a tool to replace bugzilla for tracking
interoperability / spec bugs.
[15:42] <virginie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2016Mar/0005.html
[15:43] <hhalpin> +1 jim again
[15:43] <hhalpin> Have MarkW look through, then migrate remaining open
bugs to github pull requests
[15:44] <jimsch> s/pull requests/issues/
[15:44] <Rob_Trace> Does Mark have time to work on the management of
bugs issues?  Answer: yes
[15:45] <virginie> agenda?
[15:45] * Zakim sees 5 items remaining on the agenda:
[15:45] * Zakim 1. introduction [from virginie]
[15:45] * Zakim 2. testing status [from virginie]
[15:45] * Zakim 3. implementation status [from virginie]
[15:45] * Zakim 4. bug review and management [from virginie]
[15:45] * Zakim 5. rec process [from virginie]
[15:45] <Rob_Trace> Questions on Rec process have been answered in
previous discussion.
[15:46] <jimsch> MarkW?  When do you think you will have a chance to
look at the current set of spec pull requests?
[15:46] <Rob_Trace> Next call is in 2 weeks.  Will look for update on
implementation and recommendations for dropping features.
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[15:47] <hhalpin> trackbot, end meeting
[15:47] * trackbot is ending a teleconference.
[15:47] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
[15:47] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been wseltzer,
virginie, hhalpin, jyates, Charles_Engelke, jimsch, timeless, kodonog,
markw, jmann, ttaubert
[15:47] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
[15:47] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
[15:47] * hhalpin RRSAgent seems not working, will just cut and paste
into email form.
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[15:48] <hhalpin> trackbot, start meeting
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