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- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:22:42 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25839 --- Comment #35 from Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> --- (In reply to Greg Slepak from comment #29) > (In reply to Ryan Sleevi from comment #26) > > (In reply to Harry Halpin from comment #24) > > > [snip] > > > In order to be fair, I suggest that Matt, Greg, or other people that want > > > this curve please provide sample text that fulfills this: > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-WebCryptoAPI-20140325/#defining-an-algorithm > > > [snip] > > Harry, > > > > None of what you said conflicts with what I've said, except in on key, > > critical point. > > > > This document is in the process of being finished. We have had a WGLC. We > > should NOT be adding to it at this time, especially without strong support > > from implementers AS WELL AS users. > > > > Nothing prevents Curve25519 from being pursued as a separate document. We > > have made the same comments regarding other algorithms - SEED and GOST. The > > WG can then review such a document and decide whether or not to adopt it as > > REC track, and let that proceed through. > > > > Continuing to argue for its inclusion in the spec only delays CR - after > > all, a significant change like adding Curve25519 (which again, despite there > > being implementations, lacks a good spec). Please note that Curve25519 is > > itself a curve that is NOT compatible with ECDSA NOR is negotiation the same > > as with ECDH (thus making it 'useless' from the perspective of the two APIs > > that *take* NamedCurve parameters). > > > > These are all reasons why it's best addressed as a separate spec, that > > focuses just on the operations usable with it, and working through naming > > issues (eg: Do you use Ed25519 with ECDSA? Do you call the sign/verify some > > other thing?) is fruitful. But not today. Certainly not 8+ weeks ago when we > > went for WGLC. > > OK, thank you Harry and Ryan for your comments about this. > > Harry: thanks for the suggestion and the link. I will not be able to do this, > but maybe Matt (or someone else) could? @Matt - can you specify the algorithm given the format in the link? i.e. http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-WebCryptoAPI-20140325/#defining-an-algorithm If needed, you may wish to pursue a separate document for the reasons noted by Ryan. If you have any questions, just ask. Until we get a very clear proposal in terms of textual changes (either as changes to the existing spec or as a new document), it will be hard to close this bug fairly. Ryan is obviously busy with many other bugs, so I think it's very fair to ask the developers who need this to define it. > > Ryan: What do you mean by separate spec? I've asked you this before but you > did not reply. A separate version of this spec, or a completely different > spec called "WebCryptoAPI (Secure Curve Version)"? > > Also, what do you mean by "delays CR" (what is CR)? And regardless of > whatever > CR means, why are you more concerned with delays than you are with the > security > of the curves in the spec? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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