Re: Preserving WebCrypto Key usages in JWK

All,

I've got some implementation feedback that it would be better to specify
multiple uses in JWK as a JSON array instead of comma-separated string.

We could ask JOSE to tweak the JWK specification to allow registration of
non-string values for the use attribute. I would hope this would be
straightforward.

Comments ?

...Mark



On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I made a revision to the proposal based in (a) in the bug:
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23796
>
> JWK defines "use" to be a string, so I think it would be problematic to
> define it to be an Array without getting the JWK specification to change.
>
> Some combined usages (for example WebCrypto encrypt + decrypt) could be
> useful, but cannot be represented with options (b) and (c).
>
> ...Mark
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Alexey Proskuryakov <ap@webkit.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> 18 нояб. 2013 г., в 9:57, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> написал(а):
>>
>> > ​My assumption has been that, in the absence of any text to the
>>> contrary, all algorithms that support decrypt also support unwrap, because
>>> we have defined unwrap == ( decrypt + import ) ​.​
>>>
>>> Not sure if this should be the case - e.g. supporting regular
>>> encrypt/decrypt with AES-KW seems unnecessary, and maybe the opposite
>>> (supporting key wrapping with other AES variations) is unnecessary too?
>>>
>>
>> ​We agreed last week to add wrap and unwrap usages to the algorithms that
>> support encrypt/decrypt, but not the opposite (i.e. we don't have
>> encrypt/decrypt with AES-KW).​
>>
>>
>> Makes sense to me!
>>
>> We could define new "use" values, like "enconly", "deconly", "sigonly",
>> "vfyonly", "wraponly", "unwraponly" etc. With just these, we would be able
>> to represent the usages that we are interested in for our use-case. But we
>> would not be able to represent all values of the WebCrypto usages
>> attribute, because that is an array that can represent multiple uses.
>>
>> Together with the above, we could:
>> (a) extend the "use" format to allow multiple uses to be specified -
>> either as, say, a comma-separated list or just say that "use" can be an
>> array, OR
>>
>>
>> An array seems like the cleaner option of the two, but it also has higher
>> potential of breaking tools designed to work with JWK, as it's a different
>> code path than string comparison. We'd need JWK changed to allow arrays,
>> and even then, tools authors don't all read standards, many just look at a
>> single example and work from that.
>>
>> (b) just say that combinations of usages other than the standard JWA ones
>> (enc = { encode, decode, wrap, unwrap } and sig = { sign, verify }) can't
>> be represented in JWK, OR
>> (c) disallow such combined usages in WebCrypto altogether
>>
>> Odd combined usages (e.g. { encode, sign }) are probably a bad idea
>> anyway, so I have no problem if they are not supported, but if they are
>> supported in WebCrypto and not JWK then that just feels a little ugly.
>>
>> Let me know you preference, or if you have any other ideas.
>>
>>
>> I'm fine with any of these as an implementor, these are all very good
>> ideas.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>  - WBR, Alexey Proskuryakov
>>
>>
>

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