- From: Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:51:06 -0500
- To: "public-webcrypto@w3.org" <public-webcrypto@w3.org>
Thanks to all, editors especially, for the good work getting three
documents approved for publication for our next heartbeat.
Minutes at http://www.w3.org/2012/12/17-crypto-minutes.html and below.
--Wendy
17 Dec 2012
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Dec/0044.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/17-crypto-irc
Attendees
Present
Wendy, +1.707.799.aaaa, emily, Virginie_Galindo, JimD,
ddahl, John_Simmons, +1.408.540.aabb, arunranga,
rsleevi, wtc, +1.512.257.aacc, karen, markw,
[Microsoft], mitchz, Tony_Nadalin, Mike_Jones
Regrets
Chair
Virginie
Scribe
rsleevi
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]approval for WebCrypto Use Cases for FPWD
2. [6]Use Cases
3. [7]Key Discovery
4. [8]approval for KeyDiscovery API for FPWD
5. [9]Planning for January
6. [10]next call/F2F
* [11]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 17 December 2012
<wseltzer> markw: The decision on WebCryptoAPI and
KeyDiscoveryAPI should be a single decision
<wseltzer> virginie: do I understand correctly, if KeyDiscovery
is not approved, next step will be to make clear in
WebCrytpoAPI that this is under development.
<wseltzer> markw: but in that case, we wouldn't be able to
approve that today
<wseltzer> scribenick: rsleevi
<scribe> scribenick: rsleevi
approval for WebCrypto Use Cases for FPWD
Use Cases
<wseltzer> [Use cases:
[12]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-usecases/raw-file/tip/Overv
iew.html]
[12]
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-usecases/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
<arunranga>
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012De
c/0046.html
[13]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/2012Dec/0046.html
arunranga: Goal of use cases has always been to primarily
document "What will we do first"
... taken feedback from markw, rsleevi and wrote use cases
document to cover both APIs
... if a feature comes from key discovery API, clearly marked
as such
... more feedback (particularly on OTR) needed, example code
still needs work
virginie: Hopefully use cases document will clarify what we're
trying to reach with the API
arunranga: Use Cases document is probably not Rec Track, but as
a companion document
PROPOSAL: Agreement to publish Use Cases document as FPWD
<JimD> +1
+1
<emily> +1
<ddahl> +1
<virginie> +1
<wseltzer> +1
<arunranga> +1
<Karen_> +1
<wtc> +1
<johnsim> +1
<mitchz> +1
RESOLUTION: Use Cases document to be published as FPWD
<scribe> ACTION: arun to update Use Cases to conform to Pub
Rules [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/17-crypto-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Update Use Cases to conform to
Pub Rules [on Arun Ranganathan - due 2012-12-24].
Key Discovery
approval for KeyDiscovery API for FPWD
<wseltzer> [Key Discovery:
[15]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-keydiscovery/raw-file/tip/k
eydiscovery.html ]
[15]
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-keydiscovery/raw-file/tip/keydiscovery.html
markw: Scope of key discovery draft has been limited to
origin-specific named provisioned keys
... Changes since last week: Updated async pattern to match
core Web Crypto API pattern
... returning no keys is considered an 'error' case, although
it may represent a normal case (no keys, user not authorized)
<wseltzer> [Mark's update email:
[16]http://www.w3.org/mid/8B8A45F5-1877-485E-914E-BC2908304FF1@
netflix.com ]
[16]
http://www.w3.org/mid/8B8A45F5-1877-485E-914E-BC2908304FF1@netflix.com
markw: means onsuccess always has 1 or more keys
... introduces NamedKey subclass of Key, exposes new
attributes. Object is immutable on creation (id and name CANNOT
change)
... has a case where underlying key material may disappear
while a Key object exists
... moves use case from core spec that used discovery into this
spec
... added to workerglobalscope
<Karen_> +q
<arunranga> markw, a "once-over" of the use case would be
helpful.
karen: Why is cryptokey on window instead of window.crypto
<johnsim> microsoft.a is tony nadalin
markw: The idea was to try to make a clear separation between
the optional functionality and the core spec
... Having two high level objects is a clear way to signal that
karen: Isn't putting .cryptokey under .crypto the same?
markw: Really don't have a strong opinion
<wseltzer> rlseevi: don't have strong opinion, suggest we take
the discussion to the list
<wseltzer> ... how does it interface with core spec, with
workers
<wseltzer> ... mostly a question for implementors
virginie: This spec is just a first draft, showing we're
progressing and well-structuring the specification
<arunranga> +1 rsleevi, and FWIW I think that we don't need to
bring provisioned keys and {generated} keys under the same host
object.
wtc: The way you specify the name attribute implies you want to
allow multiple keys with the same name
... Wondering if you have a use case for keys with the same
name, or is this an oversight?
<arunranga> - arunranga
markw: I don't think we have a use case for multiple keys in
the same device with the same name
... The way key discovery was specified is that you get all the
keys that match the criteria
... currently the only criteria is name, which is an exact
match
... discussing internally about alternate matching (eg:
wildcards) which can return multiple keys
... believes it was decided against, so that the outcome was
only zero or one keys
virginie: wtc, do you see use cases for multiple keys matching
the same name
<selfissued> Mike Jones online
wtc: This was just a question when comparing what Mark
specified and what was specified in the FPWD. What was the
equivalent attribute in the FPWD implied that it is unique
within the origin, but the current draft in Mark's spec has no
such requirement
markw: The intention was that the name was unique within the
origin. We can change that
wseltzer: Just to put a voice to what Arun mentioned on IRC.
The votes are just to the publication of the documents.
... Agreement means you agree the document accurately captures
the state of discussion, not necessarily that you agree with
whats in the document or that you support all of the features
... thanks to everyone for getting to this point
PROPOSAL: Publish Key Discovery API as FPWD
+1
<markw> +1
<ddahl> +1
<JimD> +1
<Karen_> +1
<virginie> +1
<emily> +1
<wseltzer> +1
<mitchz> +1
<selfissued> +1
RESOLUTION: Consensus to publish key discovery API
virginie: Thanks to Mark for taking up editing this document.
It will be submitted for WD with the main API
<scribe> ACTION: markw to update Key Discovery API to Pub Rules
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/17-crypto-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find markw. You can review and
register nicknames at
<[18]http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/users>.
[18] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/users%3E.
<wseltzer> rsleevi: There have been no changes since we called
for publication last week
<wseltzer> ... still some pubrules and typo changes to fix, but
no substantive changes
PROPOSAL: Publish Web Crypto API ED as the next WD
+1
<virginie> +1
<ddahl> +1
<emily> +1
<JimD> +1
<wtc> +1
<Karen_> +1
<mitchz> +1
<wseltzer> +1
<markw> +1
RESOLUTION: Consensus to publish as next WD
<wseltzer>
[19]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-usecases/raw-file/tip/Over
view.html]
[19]
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-usecases/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
<scribe> ACTION: rsleevi to update ED to Pub Rules for next WD
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/17-crypto-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Update ED to Pub Rules for next
WD [on Ryan Sleevi - due 2012-12-24].
Planning for January
next call/F2F
virginie: Planning for how to get feedback from community about
this next WD and getting feedback from the wider community
... Key Discovery API is very new, make sure that we're
covering the necessary features
<johnsim> +1 on publishing web crypto API ED
virginie: regular call will be one call every two weeks.
... call will focus on specific issues to make sure we're
helping the editors improve the specification
... To decide in January which week we will meet for a F2F
... two weeks in March where wseltzer will be free. Need to
decide on location
... possibilities are Boston and Korea so far
<JimD> Excellent work. Thanks to the editors!
virginie: Agreed. Very good that we have a structured set of
documents and that we're progressing
... next challenge will be high-level API, being worked on by
ddahl, rbarnes, and selfissued
... Thanks to everyone for making this call. Next call will be
second week of January
... January 7 at 20:00 UTC
--
Wendy Seltzer -- wseltzer@w3.org +1.617.715.4883 (office)
Policy Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
http://wendy.seltzer.org/ +1.617.863.0613 (mobile)
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