[Minutes] WebCGM Telecon 2007-10-11

WebCGM WG --

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    [1]W3C

       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                             WebCGM Teleconf

11 Oct 2007

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Oct/0012.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Lofton, benoit, dave, chris, stuart, thierry

    Regrets
           none

    Chair
           lofton

    Scribe
           Thierry

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]roll call 11:00am ET, membership, agenda
          2. [6]routine WG business
          3. [7]MIME registration issues
          4. [8]WebCGM 1.0 errata
          5. [9]WebCGM 2.0 errata
          6. [10]End of charter
      * [11]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________



    <lofton> see: [12]http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html

      [12] http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html

    <scribe> Scribe:Thierry

    <scribe> Chair: Lofton

    <scribe> Agenda:
    [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Oct/001
    2.html

      [13] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Oct/0012.html

    <lofton> absent: dieter, don

roll call 11:00am ET, membership, agenda

    None

routine WG business

    None

MIME registration issues

    [$1\47]
    [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Sep/002
    0.html

      [14] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Sep/0020.html

    [$1\47]
    [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Sep/002
    1.html

      [15] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Sep/0021.html

    registration of MIME type

    [47] [16]http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/cgm

      [47] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
      [16] http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/cgm

    registration may need minor adjustments for valid profile to NOT be
    ISP

    need to investigate for possible corrections. was not changed for
    the last 12 years

    Chris: Profile should not be optional
    ... good idea to update it

    Lofton: what about version ?

    <ChrisL> IANA

    need to be checked at iana

    <ChrisL> [17]http://www.iana.org/

      [17] http://www.iana.org/

    Chris: W3C has a procedure for registration

    [18]http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype.html

      [18] http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype.html

    is the registration process ...

    Needs to be done before charter expiration.

    Dave: but WebCGM is not listed there in the W3C page ...

    Chris: but we appear in the iana registration

    Chris: need to register (update) through W3C

    <ChrisL> Good idea to copy ISO/IEC SC24/WG6 would be good

    <ChrisL> [19]http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4288.txt

      [19] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4288.txt

    <ChrisL> look for " Registration Template"

    <scribe> ACTION: dave to update MIME registration [recorded in
    [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action01]

      [20] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action01

WebCGM 1.0 errata

    Lofton: errata fully approved by WG

    Will not go for a public review ...

    added the notation from Ian, saying errata are not normative

    We will not publish an edited Rec

    <trackbot-ng> Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from
    [21]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

      [21] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

    Resolution: We adopt publication of non normative WebCGM 1.0 errata

    <scribe> ACTION: Thierry to publish errata page in proper space
    [recorded in
    [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action02]

      [22] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action02

WebCGM 2.0 errata

    [23]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2007/errata-20/WebCGM20-err
    ata-draft.html

      [23] 
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2007/errata-20/WebCGM20-errata-draft.html

    <ChrisL> Thierry, trackbot did not pick up that action

    <ChrisL> ACTION: Dave to Update image/cgm registration, due +4 weeks
    [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action03]

      [24] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action03

    [25]http://cvs.w3.org/Team/~checkout~/WWW/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2007/er
    rata-20/WebCGM20-errata-draft.html?rev=1.10&content-type=text/html

      [25] 
http://cvs.w3.org/Team/~checkout~/WWW/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2007/errata-20/WebCGM20-errata-draft.html?rev=1.10&content-type=text/html

    <trackbot-ng> Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from
    [26]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

      [26] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

    <ChrisL> ACTION: Dave to Update image/cgm registration, due +4 weeks
    [recorded in
    [27]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action04]

      [27] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action04

    Refer to final 2.0 errata page ...

    [28]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2007/errata-20/WebCGM20-err
    ata-draft.html

      [28] 
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2007/errata-20/WebCGM20-errata-draft.html

    <trackbot-ng> Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from
    [29]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

      [29] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

    resolution: WG approved. These 2.0 errata are correct are ready to
    be published (once Lofton has added a link to these minutes showing
    WG approval)

End of charter

    Lofton: in 6 weeks (end november 2007). We have accomplished what
    was stated in our charter. fulfill goals. On the OASIS TC side , we
    have listed 2.x requirements, new features. and feel that in a week
    or 2 this list should be firm, specifying a small fast 2.1
    publication. Implementers are being asked in advance for commitment
    to implement, which would allow to have 2 implementation experiences
    passing W3C CR exit criteria

    Animation features would probably need longer term for a 3.0

    Lofton: Should we extent the WebCGM WG ? With same MOU for
    OASIS/W3C. Would need a new charter for approval by W3C ACs

    The TC thinks it is the right thing to do. We will have same group
    of people, and all WG participants agree to participate

    The issue is for Don. PTC owns ITEDO and Arbertext. Is PTC a W3C
    Member ? Seem to.

    Lofton: can two people attend from a same company ?

    Chris; the answer is yes.

    Lofton: But do we have enough companies in the WG ?

    Don was representing Arbertext; Don could be an invited expert. But
    that would mean a smaller number of companies.

    Chris: Why did not Airbus joined W3C ? It would certainly help
    recharter the WG. They are full member

    If W3C buy a 380, that might help ;-)

    <ChrisL> X-Hive

    <ChrisL> [30]http://www.x-hive.com/

      [30] http://www.x-hive.com/

    is a W3C member and be interested in joining the WG ?

    Dave takes an Action to do recruitment ;-)

    <ChrisL> XHive is owned by EMC?

    <scribe> ACTION: Dave to recruit . contact people from Airbus and
    X-Hive... [recorded in
    [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action05]

      [31] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action05

    Lofton: When should the charter be done ?

    Chris: When done it then gets submitted to W3M, and then it gets
    submitted to ACs

    Lofton: the charter needs to give timelines
    ... might look at the milestones of 2.0 and time frame of TC

    <scribe> ACTION: Lofton, Dave and Thierry to work on timeline
    [recorded in
    [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action06]

      [32] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action06

    <scribe> ACTION: Thierry to work on recharter [recorded in
    [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action07]

      [33] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action07

    Lofton: do we need a requirement document

    <trackbot-ng> Tracking ISSUEs and ACTIONs from
    [34]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

      [34] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/track/

    Chris: there is a set of question to be answered

    Lofton: About requirements, do we anticipate we will get any new
    ones from W3C sources such as I18N?

    Should re-ead the MOU carefully, but was designed to be usable for
    future work. No need to set another one

    Lofton: implementers are currently doing animation with DOM. Would
    be better to have declarative animation

    next telecon: in 2 weeks ?

    <ChrisL> Does Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) have any use
    of WebCGM? Also w3c members

    Two candidate meetings before Lofton leaves (10-nov for 2-1/2
    weeks). By that time need to know what we will be doing

    Chris: Will the charter be ready before the charter expires ?

    Thierry: Should Try, but we may delay a little bit.

    <davec> DISA has been involved in CGM generally in the past, but
    I've lost contact with them, now

    Lofton: Goal is to agree on a draft charter before we expire

    Next telecon: 2 weeks and 4 weeks from now

    For 1.0 errata; it is not an OASIS standard. So there will not be
    errata published.

    For 2.0 errata we will go through the OASIS errata process.

    Lofton: need to edit errata with OASIS style + TC approval ...
    formal Vote ...

    Should be done sometime in january 2008

    The OASIS will publish a 2.0 errata page, not include these in the
    spec. until integrate into 2.1.

    As these are non normative (status 2) don't affect conformance

    Therefore conforming to 2.0 should be conforming to 2.1

    Adjourned

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: dave to recrut ... [recorded in
    [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: Dave to Update image/cgm registration, due +4 weeks
    [recorded in
    [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: Dave to Update image/cgm registration, due +4 weeks
    [recorded in
    [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action04]
    [NEW] ACTION: dave to update MIME registration [recorded in
    [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action01]
    [NEW] ACTION: Lofton, Dave and Thierry to work on timeline [recorded
    in [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action06]
    [NEW] ACTION: Thierry to publish errata page in proper space
    [recorded in
    [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: Thierry to work on recharter [recorded in
    [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action07]

      [35] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action05
      [36] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action03
      [37] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action04
      [38] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action01
      [39] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action06
      [40] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action02
      [41] http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-webcgm-minutes.html#action07

    [End of minutes]
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