- From: Benoit Bezaire <benoit@itedo.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:08:25 -0400
- To: WebCGM WG <public-webcgm-wg@w3.org>
WebCGM F2F meeting minutes Thursday Aug 24th 2006 are available at
http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WebCGM WG Teleconference
24 Aug 2006
[2]Agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/Group/2006/f2f-Cologne/Overview.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
Lofton
Scribe
Don, Benoit
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Miter limit
2. [6]ulrich's apsid issue
3. [7]static 10 matrix and dynamic 10 matrix
4. [8]transition request
5. [9]changes for CR text
6. [10]implementation report
7. [11]telecon with implementors
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 24 August 2006
<Chris> Scribe: don
<Chris> Meeting: WebCGM Cologne f2f day 2
<Chris> Agenda:
Miter limit
<Chris> svg definition:
[13]http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/painting.html#StrokeMiterlimitP
roperty
[13] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/painting.html#StrokeMiterlimitProperty
cgm description differs from postscript
lofton says cgm 1999 intention was to use postscript definition
add to profile, indicate ps rendering is acceptable
<scribe> ACTION: lofton to communicate sc24 about mitre limit
erratum [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Communicate sc24 about mitre limit
erratum [on Lofton Henderson - due 2006-08-31].
resolution: cgm:1999 is considered to be wrong and the ps defintion
was intended
rationale: cgm says truncate at mitre lenght whereas ps says revert
to bevel join style
<scribe> ACTION: lofton to add T.6.24 approate wording to map values
< 1 to 1 and allow ps rendering of mitre limit [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Add T.6.24 approate wording to map
values < 1 to 1 and allow ps rendering of mitre limit [on Lofton
Henderson - due 2006-08-31].
s/appoate/appropiate/
ulrich's apsid issue
question re node-metadata test, test asserts that attribute count
should be 2
ulrich thinks attribute count should be 1
benoit says per specification text nodes don't have apsid so
attribute count should indeed be 1
<scribe> ACTION: benoit to correct node-metadata test and 3
implementors need to correct their implementations and re-test
[recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Correct node-metadata test and 3
implementors need to correct their implementations and re-test [on
Benoit Bezaire - due 2006-08-31].
static 10 matrix and dynamic 10 matrix
benoit has submitted isoview dynamic 10 test results
discussion on dynamic 10 fragment-idC2H-BE-01 test
isoview and vizex test results are same
<scribe> ACTION: lofton to change fragment-idC2H-BE-01.html
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Change fragment-idC2H-BE-01.html [on
Lofton Henderson - due 2006-08-31].
transition request
evidence document has been reviewed?
david says peter zimermann has reviewed and commented
summary: went thru list for CR transition, thierry is drafting
transition request and we think we don't have any problems with
items
[18]http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr
[18] http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr
changes for CR text
lofton: Here is what I think comprises the editing changes for CR
text.
Have I missed anything?
-- 3 changes for i18n comments
-- 1 change for Steven Pemberton (Abstract)
-- change for highlight method (split into two methods, match
objBehavior semantics)
-- change for NS URI etc (only need to change the dereference
document on OASIS)
implementation report
add that there webcgm illustrating tools and redlining tools
chris says that implementation report should be clear that matrix is
for viewers not authoring tools
discussion about what should be included in 2.0 matrix
only viewers or should it include authoring tools, e.g. TI,
IsoDraw...?
resolution: move TI should from dynamic 2.0 test and point to static
matrix for authoring tools
chris proposes splitting 2.0 table into seperate tables, dymamic and
static
resolution: split into 2 tables, remove remove TI from dynamic and
move to static, also add IsoDraw to static 2.0
<BB> scribe: Benoit
<BB> scribenick: BB
telecon with implementors
LH: is giving an update to implementors
... telling implementors that mitrelimit will change to match PS and
OS routines.
FC: PS mitrelimit and GDI are the same?
LH: we think they are close, we will update the profile so that both
are compliant
... the highlight method with change and a clearHighlight will be
added
DC: we also accepted Ulrich's comment, the test is wrong.
... implementors will need to check that test again.
UL: we got a Windows update that is affecting some of our results
<Ben> scribe: Benoit
<Ben> scribenick: Ben
LH: I'm looking at the utf8 and utf16 tests
UL: I didn't get an update from dev regarding those tests yet.
FC: in sept we will have more resources to allocate to this project,
we should be able to address some of our issues
LH: the highlight test will change
... we have until oct 5th to get 2 passing implementations.
FC: is anyone else going to implement text on path.
UL: if you have some priorities in the feature, you can state
them...
LH: Itedo will implement text on path, but not by oct 5th
... Don is the one that did most of the work on text on path.
FC: I think we could pass the test by oct 5th.
... about pattern size... we render the pattern so that it remains
recognizable to the user
LH is loading up PATTBL01.cgm
FC: we don't allow the pattern to get too small to be recognized
... what does the specification say about rendering such pattern
size?
LH: Probably not much.
FC: I think if you were to increase the pattern size, the problem
would go away
... it needs to be increase by a factor of 4+ IMO
LH: how do you do on PATTBL02.cgm?
FC: we don't render exactly like the png, but we are very close.
LH: this test (01) is not a very good screen test, it's more of a
printer test.
DL: we do pretty well on the 02 test.
Resolution: pattbl01.cgm is unusable for screen resolution devices
LH: but it looks like pattbl02.cgm is good
... people should be focusing on pattbl02.cgm instead of
pattbl01.cgm
... UL, when do you expect to have all the static 1.0 tests?
UL: you have them in my latest email
LH: I will distribute a new reference image of the mitre limit test
... please UL send me a list of all the tests you have problems
with.
UL: ok.
LH: anything else?
BB: BHO?
DL: we had some problems with the BHO in a new version of IE.
DW: we are using the BHO
UL: we have had problems with the BHO with certain customer websites
DW: the implementation matrix should state if the products is
available or not to customers
LH: let's be clear what product is used to get a PASS.
... is the BHO required to pass 1.0 dynamic tests?
DW: yes
DL: yes
BB: correction, the BHO is required for 1.0 dynamic tests in IE.
LH: we should communicate with CGMOpen to determine what is the
problem some people are having with the BHO
...
... anything else?
FC: I'll have a build of our product ready for Chris, probably next
week.
LH: ok
(implementors left the call)
break time
<lofton> [...after break, people are working on break-out tasks...]
<lofton> [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html
[19] http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: benoit to correct node-metadata test and 3
implementors need to correct their implementations and re-test
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: lofton to add T.6.24 approate wording to map values <
1 to 1 and allow ps rendering of mitre limit [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: lofton to change fragment-idC2H-BE-01.html [recorded
in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: lofton to communicate sc24 about mitre limit erratum
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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