- From: Hayato Ito <hayato@chromium.org>
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 15:18:28 +0900
- To: Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@apple.com>
- Cc: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAFpjS_2vzoT0U16RZm343_6R=uZkMonHcxPEFsEiPcihTm+v3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you for the proposal.
Sounds like the first part of the proposal is based on the feature which
was reverted in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24288.
In the current spec, the child elements in <shadow> are simply *ignored*.
Therefore, I'm afraid that a shadow tree for my-webkitten-card:
<shadow>
<span class="name">WebKitten</span>
<content></content>
<span class="email">kitten@webkit.org</span>
</shadow>
doesn't make sense here. That would be equivalent with a
"<shadow></shadow>".
Does it have any affect for your proposal?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@apple.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot to add [Shadow DOM] in the title.
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@apple.com> wrote:
>
> *Review: Template Inheritance in the Current Specification*
>
> In the current specification, a super class doesn't define any hooks for
> subclasses. Instead, it defines insertion points into which nodes from the
> original DOM ("light DOM") is inserted, and then subclasses use shadow
> element to replace elements that get distributed into superclass's
> insertion points.
>
> Consider my-card element used as follows:
> <my-card>
> <span class="name">Ryosuke Niwa</span>
> <span class="email">rniwa@apple.com</span>
> </my-card>
>
> Suppose this element's shadow DOM looks like this:
> Name: <content select=".name"></content>
> Email: <content select=".email"></content>
>
> Then in the composed tree, the first span is distributed into the first
> content element and the second span is distributed into the second content
> element as follows:
> <my-card>
> <!-- shadow root begin -->
> Name: <content select=".name">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="name">Ryosuke Niwa</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> Email: <content select=".email">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="email">rniwa@apple.com</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> <!-- shadow root end -->
> </my-card>
>
> If I had my-webkitten-card that always as "WebKitten" as a name that
> inherits from my-card, its shadow DOM may look like this:
> <shadow>
> <span class="name">WebKitten</span>
> <content></content>
> <span class="email">kitten@webkit.org</span>
> </shadow>
>
> If I had an instance of my-webkitten-card as follows:
> <my-webkitten-card>
> <span class="name">Ryosuke Niwa</span>
> <span class="email">rniwa@webkit.org</span>
> </my-webkitten-card>
>
> Then its composed tree will look like this:
> <my-webkitten-card>
> <!-- my-webkitten-card's shadow root begin -->
> <shadow>
> <!-- my-card's shadow root begin -->
> Name: <content select=".name">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="name">WebKitten</span>
> <span class="name">Ryosuke Niwa</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> Email: <content select=".email">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="email">rniwa@webkit.org</span>
> <span class="email">kitten@webkit.org</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> <!-- my-card's shadow root end -->
> </shadow>
> <!-- my-webkitten-card's shadow root end -->
> </my-webkitten-card>
>
> Here, my-card's shadow DOM was inserted into where the shadow element
> existed in my-webkitten-card's shadow DOM, and the insertion points inside
> my-card's shadow DOM got nodes distributed from shadow element's children
> including nodes inside content element. If we didn't have the content
> element inside my-webkitten-card with "name" and "email" classes, then we
> would only see WebKitten and kitten@webkit.org distributed into my-card's
> insertion points as in:
>
> <my-webkitten-card>
> <!-- my-webkitten-card's shadow root begin -->
> <shadow>
> <!-- my-card's shadow root begin -->
> Name:
> <content select=".name">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="name">WebKitten</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> Email:
> <content select=".email">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="email">kitten@webkit.org</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> <!-- my-card's shadow root end -->
> </shadow>
> <!-- my-webkitten-card's shadow root end -->
> </my-webkitten-card>
>
> *Separating Transclusion Mechanisms for Inheritance and Data Binding*
>
> The current model mixes data binding and inheritance if we consider
> distributing nodes from the "light DOM" as a form of data binding. Namely,
> distributing nodes from my-card's or my-webkitten-card's light DOM is data
> binding where the data model is DOM whereas distributing nodes from
> my-webkitten-card's shadow element into my-card's insertion points is an
> inheritance hook.
>
> Furthermore, the transclusion mechanism for inheritance happens backwards.
> Instead of a superclass defining a transclusion points for its subclasses
> to use, the subclasses are overriding the meaning of insertion points in
> the superclass by injecting nodes. This is how existing JS libraries and
> frameworks do template inheritance.
>
> For example, the following two JS template libraries that support
> inheritance both allow superclass template to define "named blocks" that
> could be overridden by subclass templates:
> http://paularmstrong.github.io/swig/docs/#inheritance
> http://jlongster.github.io/nunjucks/templating.html#template-inheritance
>
> An example from Nunjucks:
>
> If we have a template parent.html that looks like this:
>
> {% block header %}This is the default content{% endblock %}
> <section class="left"> {% block left %}{% endblock %}</section>
> <section class="right"> {% block right %} This is more content {% endblock %}</section>
>
> And we render this template:
>
> {% extends "parent.html" %}
> {% block left %}This is the left side!{% endblock %}
> {% block right %}This is the right side!{% endblock %}
>
> The output would be:
>
> This is the default content
> <section class="left"> This is the left side!</section>
> <section class="right"> This is the right side!</section>
>
>
> *Alternative Approach to Inhertiance*
>
> Consider random-element which picks a random child node to show whenever a
> user clicks on the element. This element may show the name of probability
> distribution it uses to pick a child in its shadow DOM. The name of the
> probability distribution is in the definitions of subclasses of
> random-element, and not in the light DOM of this custom element. If we
> wanted to use the current inheritance model (multiple generations of shadow
> DOM & shadow element), we have to either replace the entire shadow DOM in
> the subclass to show the name of the probability distribution that
> subclasses use or add an attribute, etc… to identify the element that
> contains the name of probability distribution inside subclasses' shadow
> element. The latter would be weird because there is nothing preventing from
> the user of random-element to put an element that matches the same selector
> as a child of random-element in the "light DOM".
>
> Here, we propose an alternative approach. We introduce a new "yield"
> element to be used in the superclass define a transclusion point as an
> inheritance hook. We also introduce "transclude(id, template)" function on
> the element which, upon calling, would create a new shadow DOM on a "yield"
> element of the specified id and populates it with the specified template
> element's content.
>
> Consider the earlier example of my-card and my-webkitten-card. In this
> new model, the superclass my-card *opts in* to the transclusion by a
> subclass by adding two yield elements in its shadow DOM as follows:
> Name: <yield id="name"><content select=".name"></content></yield>
> Email: <yield id="email"><content select=".email"></content></yield>
>
> The complete definition of my-card element, assuming the existence of
> class syntax in ES6 and the use of constructor (as opposed to created
> callback), will look like this:
> <template id=my-card-template>
> Name: <yield id="name"><content select=".name"></content></yield>
> Email: <yield id="email"><content select=".email"></content></yield>
> </template>
> <script>
> class MyCardElement : extends HTMLElement {
> function constructor() {
> var shadowRoot = this.createShadowRoot();
>
> shadowRoot.appendChild(document.getElementById('my-card-template').cloneNode(true));
> }
> }
> document.registerElement('my-card', MyCardElement);
> </script>
>
> If we had an instance of my-card element (in light DOM) as follows:
> <my-card>
> <span class="name">R. Niwa</span>
> <span class="email">rniwa@apple.com</span>
> </my-card>
>
> Then the composed tree would look like this:
> <my-card>
> <!-- shadow root begin -->
> Name:
> <yield id="name">
> <content select=".name">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="name">R. Niwa</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> </yield>
> Email:
> <yield id="email">
> <content select=".email">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="email">rniwa@apple.com</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> </yield>
> <!-- shadow root end -->
> </my-card>
>
> Here, yield elements are behaving like div's because it hasn't been
> transcluded by a subclass.
>
> Now recall that in the current inheritance model, MyWebKittenCardElement,
> a subclass of MyCardElement, could be defined as follows:
> <template id=my-webkitten-card-template>
> <shadow>
> <span class="name">WebKitten</span>
> <span class="email">kitten@webkit.org</span>
> <content></content>
> </shadow>
> </template>
> <script>
> class MyCardElement : extends HTMLElement {
> function constructor() {
> this.createShadowRoot().appendChild(document.getElementById('
> my-webkitten-card-templat').cloneNode(true));
> }
> }
> document.registerElement('my-webkitten-card', MyWebKittenCardElement);
> </script>
>
> In the new model, we write it as follows:
> <template id=my-webkitten-name-template>
> <span>WebKitten</span><content select=".name"></content>
> </template>
>
> <template id=my-webkitten-email-template>
> <span>kitten@webkit.org</span><content select=".email"></content>
> </template>
>
> <script>
> class MyCardElement : extends HTMLElement {
> function constructor() {
> this.transclude('name',
> document.getElementById('my-webkitten-name-template').cloneNode(true));
> this.transclude('email',
> document.getElementById('my-webkitten-email-template').cloneNode(true));
> }
> }
> document.registerElement('my-webkitten-card', MyWebKittenCardElement);
> </script>
>
>
> Now suppose we had an instance of my-webkitten-card as follows:
> <my-webkitten-card>
> <span class="name">R. Niwa</span>
> <span class="email">rniwa@apple.com</span>
> </my-webkitten-card>
>
> Then we have the following composed tree:
> <my-webkitten-card>
> <!-- my-card's shadow root begin -->
> Name:
> <yield id="name">
> <!— transclusion begin -->
> <span>WebKitten</span>
> <content select=".name">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="name">R. Niwa</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> <!— transclusion end -->
> </yield>
> Email:
> <yield id="email">
> <!— transclusion begin -->
> <span>kitten@webkit.org</span>
> <content select=".email">
> <!-- distribution begin -->
> <span class="name">rniwa@apple.com</span>
> <!-- distribution end -->
> </content>
> <!— transclusion end -->
> </yield>
> <!-- my-webkitten-card's shadow root end -->
> </my-webkitten-card>
>
> For implementors, this new model doesn't require multiple generations of
> shadow DOM for a single host. Each element can have at most one shadow
> root, and its shadow DOM simply contain yield element that defines
> transclusion point. Furthermore, transclusion is simply done as attaching
> a new shadow DOM to yield element. If we wanted the same expressive power
> as the current inheritance model in grabbing light DOM's nodes, we can make
> insertion points pull nodes out of the parent shadow DOM's light DOM
> instead.
>
> For authors, the new model separates the concerns of binding DOM data
> model to shadow DOM from defining inheritance hooks. It addresses use
> cases where inheritance hooks for subclasses are separate from data source
> used by custom elements such as random-element showing the name of
> distribution, which is overridden by its subclasses.
>
> - R. Niwa
>
>
>
--
Hayato
Received on Monday, 21 April 2014 06:19:16 UTC