- From: Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>
- Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:53:41 +0200
- To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
- CC: public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
ITS 2.0 (the Internationalization Tag Set 2.0) [1] is a specification attaching l10n/i18n properties to elements and attributes of a document tree through two means: 1. locally, using attributes in the ITS namespace 2. globally, using rules expressed in XML in the ITS namespace and based on a selecting mechanism (XPath, CSS, ...) Here are two examples of the above: locally: <span xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" its:translate="no">NASA</span> globally: <rules xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" version="2.0" queryLanguage="css"> <translateRule selector="//html:acronym" translate="xpath" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"/> </rules> In the global case, the selecting language of the rule can be chosen through the @queryLanguage attribute on the rules element. CSS Selectors are explicitely listed [2] as a valid selecting mechanism and it would be really nice to see CSS used there. Unfortunately, Selectors [3] and its Selectors API [4] companion have two problems that are more or less blockers for Selectors inside ITS 2.0: a. it's not possible, even in Selectors API 2 [5], to resolve arbitrary namespaces in querySelectorAll() b. Selectors cannot target attributes In the case of querySelectorAll(), we clearly need to extend Selectors API to allow namespaces. We had little use cases in the past but that's not true any more. And it's totally false to say we need this for html only. A spec like ITS 2.0 will be in most cases not implemented natively but above abstractions like document.evaluate() or querySelectorAll(). We clearly need namespace resolvers like [6] in Selectors API. In the case of attributes not reachable through Selectors, we may have almost everything we need in Selectors level 4 to provide a user like ITS 2.0 with a solution: the subject indicator [7] could be easily extended the following way: 1. only one subject indicator is allowed per compound selector 2. the subject indicator can precede a universal selector (potentially omitted), a type element selector or an attribute selector. In the case of an attribute selector, the selector represents then the attribute node matching the condition expressed by the attribute selector. Note: all @foo attributes of the document is not ![foo] - that means !*[foo] - but *![foo] 3. both Selectors and Selectors API should allow such attribute matching, but CSS rules with such attribute matching would of course not trigger any style resolution. querySelectorAll() and friends should be extended to return attribute nodes. The case of a group of selectors where one of the selectors uses a subject indicator to match attributes has to be discussed but I think it's doable. The above would allow to express any ITS rule not only using Selectors but also in the future in a CSS-alike syntax. Then instead of: <rules xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" version="2.0" queryLanguage="css"> <translateRule selector="html|acronym![title]" translate="css" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"/> </rules> we could have the readability of: @namespace html url("http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"); html|acronym![title] { its-translate: no; } and have it merged with CSS, use the power of the cascade, etc instead of having to rely on... ahem... XPath. We could solve two problems of ours at the same time: *finally* extend Selectors to attribute nodes and fix that painful hole of Selectors API not working with namespaces. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/ [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#css-selectors [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-css3-selectors-20110929/ [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-selectors-api-20130221/ [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/selectors-api2/ [6] http://is.gd/HVrWM5 [7] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#subject </Daniel>
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