- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:48:31 -0500
- To: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
The minutes from the January 15 Widgets voice conference are
available at the following and copied below:
<http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html>
WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send
them to the public-webapps mail list before 22 January 2009 (the next
Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered
Approved.
-Regards, Art Barstow
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Widgets Voice Conference
15 Jan 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009JanMar/0086.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-irc
Attendees
Present
Art, Arve, Kai, Josh, Jere, David, Mark, Mike, Bryan
Regrets
Frederick, Thomas, Marcos
Chair
Art
Scribe
Art
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Review and Tweak Agenda
2. [6]Annoucements
3. [7]Widget Testing
4. [8]P&C Last Call WD
5. [9]API & Events spec
6. [10]AOB
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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Date: 15 January 2009
<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB
<scribe> Scribe: Art
Review and Tweak Agenda
AB: agenda published January 14... it is
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JanMar/00
86.html
... DigSig not on the agenda because FH and TLR are at the XML
Security WG's f2f meeting this week
... one change I propose is to move Testing to the beginning of the
meeting so Kai doesn't have to stay on the entire call
... any problems with that proposal?
[12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009JanMar/0086.html
[None]
AB: any other change requests?
[None]
Annoucements
AB: January 31 is the deadline for Comments for the P&C LCWD
... very important to hit the deadline to optimze our f2f time in
Paris
... any other announcements?
[None]
Widget Testing
AB: Kai, would you please give us a short status?
<hendry> [13]http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtqa
[13] http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtqa
KH: I've done a lot of work but because of the end of year holidays
progress has been a bit slow
... recently talking to MC and TLR about DigSig
... We recently agreed to move MWTS tests to the "Opera format"
... This has been a bit more complicated than I'd like
... have also been communicating with DavidH (Opera) re the widget
RELAX NG schema
<hendry> [14]http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtvalidator
[14] http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtvalidator
<arve> (I missed a few minutes here, due to a phone call)
KH: The test framework unloads the zip and runs the widget in the
browser
... I need feedback from you guys to help
AB: any volunteers to review what Kai and MWTS have done?
JS: I can take a look
<arve> zakeem, Drop Mike
<Bryan> Bryan can help review it - on chat only today
AB: thanks Bryan
... are you/MWTS blocked by WebApps?
KH: no, not really
... if you want to make things go faster, then please make some
contributions
AB: OK; understood
... any other comments for KAI or about the test suite?
[None]
AB: we are having a Widgets f2f meeting Feb 24-26 in Paris
... I assume widgets will be on the agenda
KH: I will not be available that week
... Dom may be able to attend or help
<scribe> ACTION: Barstow follow-up with Dom re Widget Testing and
our Feb 24-26 f2f meeting [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-288 - Follow-up with Dom re Widget Testing
and our Feb 24-26 f2f meeting [on Arthur Barstow - due 2009-01-22].
KH: are there some other implementations I can use for inspiration?
AB: Scott Wilson's email today describes two EU projects that are
implementing parts of the Widgets specs
P&C Last Call WD
AB: formal comments from Boris and Jere
... Don't necessarily want to go through the comments line-by-line
... However, we do have an obligation to respond to every comment
submitted and we must continue to use public-webapps for that
<scribe> ACTION: Marcos create a tracking document for the P&C LCWD
[recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-289 - Create a tracking document for the
P&C LCWD [on Marcos Caceres - due 2009-01-22].
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: We can discuss any particular Hot Topic and/or
process-related
AB: Boris
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JanMar/00
46.html
... one area of continued concern is the HTML5 dependency
... Borris' comment #4 raises this issue
... HTML5 isn't going to reach REC for some time, unfortuantely
... our options are somewhat limited
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009JanMar/0046.html
Arve: I'm OK with us referencing those parts of HTML5 that are
stable
... perhaps we need to clearly identify those specs in WebApps that
have a dependency on HTML and give them to Hixie
AB: any other comments on HTML5 dependency issue?
[None]
AB: any comments on Borris' input?
... clearly it indicates we neet to tighten up the spec
... I didn't see anything I would characterize as a "Show Stopper"
... surely Marcos will reply but anyone else should feel free to
reply too
... Jere sent comments:
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JanMar/00
88.html
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009JanMar/0088.html
JK: I expect Marcos to reply
AB: are there any particularly urgent comments, Marcos?
JK: comment #1 is a bit urgent because it could affect the testing
re localization
AB: thanks for sending these comments
JK: re comment #5, were there discussions about just using one
config doc for the whole widget rather than a config per locale?
AB: some orgs use different groups to do their localization so
keeping them separate works well with those business arrangements
... and munging everything into a single config file can be
problematic
Arve: also can expect things such as layout to vary depending on
locale
JK: if anyone has a ptr to past discussions, I would appreciate
... think there is a need for more information about how to handle
merging when more than one config file is used
Arve: think we need to hear from Marcos
AB: any other comments about Jere's email?
[None]
API & Events spec
AB: this spec hasn't been update recently
... ED is [19]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/
[19] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/
Arve: we still have a few Red Blocks in the spec
... some changes to HTML5 need to discussed before we move fwd with
our spec
... I need to review the changes Hixie has made
... his changes potentially will affect what we want to specifiy
AB: can you agree to a deadline for that analysis?
Arve: yes
AB: is one week sufficient?
Arve: yes
<scribe> ACTION: arve review changes to HTML5 that may affect API
and Events spec and propose a way forward [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-290 - Review changes to HTML5 that may
affect API and Events spec and propose a way forward [on Arve
Bersvendsen - due 2009-01-22].
[ Some discussion on whether or not the ED at
[21]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ is the latest version or
not ... ]
[21] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/
Arve: it appears I have not checked in agreed changes from Mandelieu
... I will check in all changes before our next Voice Conf
AB: anything else on this topic?
[None]
AOB
AB: Benoit sent me an info packet for the Paris meeting
... I will upload that to the meeting page and notify the group
... Anything else?
[None]
AB: Meeting adjourned?
... Yes, meeting adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: arve review changes to HTML5 that may affect API and
Events spec and propose a way forward [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Barstow follow-up with Dom re Widget Testing and our
Feb 24-26 f2f meeting [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Marcos create a tracking document for the P&C LCWD
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/15-wam-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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