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benfrancis left a comment (w3c/manifest#1168) Below are some direct quotes from the specification to explain why I don't think it's possible for a web app to be installed unless a web page links to a web app manifest, and therefore it is not true that "Any website is an installable web application." A manifest is always associated with a manifest URL: > 1. Web Application Manifest > ... > A manifest has an associated manifest URL, which is the [[URL](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#bib-url)] from which the [manifest](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-manifest) was fetched. The manifest URL comes from a link in an HTML document: > 1.1.2 Using a link element to link to a manifest > The example also shows how to use the link type "manifest" The algorithm for processing a manifest takes this manifest URL as an input so a manifest can not be processed without one: > 1.16.1 Processing the manifest > The algorithm takes a [URL](https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-url) document URL, a [URL](https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-url) manifest URL, and a [byte sequence](https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#byte-sequence) bodyBytes. For a web application to be considered "installed", it must be possible to apply a manifest to a browsing context to create an application context: > 4. Installable web applications > ... > Once a web application is [installed](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-installed) it is known as a installed web application: That is, the manifest's members, or their defaults, are [applied](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-apply) to the [top-level browsing context](https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/document-sequences.html#top-level-browsing-context) of the web application. This distinguishes an installed web application from a traditional bookmark, as opening a web page from a traditional bookmark will not have the manifest's properties [applied](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-apply) to it. Updating members of the manifest requires fetching the manifest resource from the manifest URL provided in a manifest link relation: > 1.16.6 Updating the manifest > As specified for [manifest](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-manifest) link relation, the manifest is fetched and processed on every page load. When [processing a manifest](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-processing-a-manifest) is successful, user agents MAY apply the updated manifest to any current and future [application contexts](https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#dfn-application-context) associated with the application. Whilst some implementations may assume a "default manifest" in order to "install" a website which does not provide one, as far as I can tell the concept of a default manifest or default manifest URL are not defined anywhere in the specification. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues/1168#issuecomment-4126073383 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: <w3c/manifest/issues/1168/4126073383@github.com>
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