Re: [w3c/manifest] beforeinstallprompt : Prompting user makes it to hard to discern whether the user truly wanted to "install" a web app (#835)

I agree with @vincentmorneau here. It's just baffling.  I mean I get it from the higher-ups at Apple...PWAs taking off hurts App Store profits...but its strange to have developers in here giving these half-baked reasons _that really don't add up at all_.  It's even more strange to have Mozilla supporting this kind of rhetoric. **_It's anti-web_**. We are creating more walls/barriers than necessary. Having some badging that indicates install-ability is great and welcomed, but PWA adoption, which is something the web needs...for reasons like **Electron**....will be severely throttled by these positions being taken by Apple/Mozilla.

You either want web apps to be installable or you don't.  If you want it, then commit to it.  If you want them installable, you want it to be as frictionless as possible.  Otherwise, it's easier to get a user to just download a .dmg or .exe file.   **_Do we really want that?_**

And whats funny, Apple **says  it doesn't really want** web apps in the App Store.  You have developers afraid to use frameworks like React Native because of some of these new policies. Personally, I think there are other things going on here that are unrelated to some of the points being brought up by @rniwa...and those things are related to App Store profits.  PWAs taking off would potentially hurt those profits.  I am just surprised to see **Mozilla** taking the same position.

Electron is *not* what we want.  But it will be **_what we deserve_** if we don't do this the right way.  I say *we* because we are all one large developer community trying to make the web a better existence.  Installable PWAs are **not** just bookmarks.

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