- From: Marcos Caceres <notifications@github.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 16:30:21 -0800
- To: w3c/manifest <manifest@noreply.github.com>
- Message-ID: <w3c/manifest/issues/294/69849198@github.com>
> Try using the Android Facebook app. By default it will open external links in a very basic > overlay on top of the app rather than respect my choice and use my fully featured default > browser. This is generally a business decision. You don't want the user to leave your app - but you want them to complete the task they need to complete (e.g., reading a news article, viewing a funny picture, etc.). Thus this need a good balance between what developers want and what users wants. > In my opinion, if I click on a hyperlink which doesn't fall within the scope of > an installed app, it should open as a new tab in my browser, not stay inside the context > of the app with some kind of stripped down overlay. The overlay might provide that choice to the user, as Twitter on iOS does: ![screenshot_2015-01-14_10_14_15](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/870154/5731979/5adacab6-9bd6-11e4-9a66-1e583d56fd88.png) The thing is to provide enough choice to satisfy everyone. > Once I've left the scope of the app I'm > back out on the open web and free to follow further hyperlinks, it doesn't make sense to > keep me in the app. I strongly disagree. Jumping from one app to another to view a web page would be tremendously annoying to most users. It's why this (stripped down browsers) is such a prevalent pattern in so many apps. They allow users to do whatever they need to do (view an article, watch a quick video, etc.) without actually having to go to the big heavy browser. It avoids a big context switch, it's fast, etc. and keeps users focused. > These are largely UX decisions specific to a particular user agent so as long as the spec > doesn't prevent an implementation from making these kinds of choices, I think that's > fine. Agree :+1: > I think defining an application context as a browsing context to which a manifest > has been applied is fine. I think specifying that an application context can only be created > by launching an app would be overly restrictive (I don't think the spec currently says > this). Yeah, the spec doesn't prevent this - and I think it would be awesome for implementers to experiment with this. > I think saying that an application context MUST always be navigated to the start_url > when it is created may be too strong, Ok, yes - I think I see what you mean. The text was written from the perspective of launching the application from the homescreen - not from a "deep link". It was certainly not the intention to prevent "deep linking". I'll clarify. > the user agent might want to deep link into an app and > therefore navigate a new application context to a URL other than the default start URL > used when launching the app. Agree. > So perhaps the sentence "When an application context is created, the user agent MUST > immediately navigate to the start URL with replacement enabled" is a little strong? I'll fix that up. --- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues/294#issuecomment-69849198
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