- From: Andrew Emmons <andrew.emmons@quickoffice.com>
- Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:09:33 -0500
- To: "public-webapi@w3.org" <public-webapi@w3.org>
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Hi WG,
Please see the minutes for today's DOM 3 Events telcon:
http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html
Or below as text:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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Web API WG Teleconference
14 May 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/14_May_2008
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Andrew_Emmons, Doug, smaug
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Andrew Emmons
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Halvord Steen's proposal
2. [6]Additional editor
3. [7]pressure events
* [8]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 14 May 2008
<scribe> Scribe: Andrew Emmons
ScrineNick: aemmons
<scribe> ScribeNick:aemmons
Halvord Steen's proposal
<shepazu>
[9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Apr/0225.ht
ml
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Apr/0225.html
<shepazu> [10]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Legacy_key_events
[10] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Legacy_key_events
DS: I've adapted this into the Wiki
... Seems as if couple of issues were raised and he replied in a
positive manner
... Smaug, can you take an action to incorperate changes?
<smaug> pettay
OP: Yes
<scribe> ACTION: ollie to incorperate his feedback into Halvord
Steen's wiki proposal [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ollie
<smaug> Olli
<scribe> ACTION: olli to incorperate his feedback into Halvord
Steen's wiki proposal [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - olli
<scribe> ACTION: smaug to incorperate his feedback into Halvord
Steen's wiki proposal [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - smaug
<smaug> opettay2
<scribe> ACTION: opettay2 to incorperate his feedback into Halvord
Steen's wiki proposal [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - opettay2
<scribe> ACTION: doug to incorperate his feedback into Halvord
Steen's wiki proposal [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-276 - Incorperate his feedback into
Halvord Steen\'s wiki proposal [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-21].
DS: OP, were you generally happy with his approach?
OP: Not clear for the IME part
... For exmaple
... I did some testing today and sent some results to the list
... Testing all the main browsers
<shepazu>
[16]http://mozilla.pettay.fi/moztests/events/browser-keyCodes.htm
[16] http://mozilla.pettay.fi/moztests/events/browser-keyCodes.htm
OP: Things are OK in FF, Opera, some cases quite different
OP I have to cmpare the table in the Wiki with what I have tested
today
DS: If there are going to be differences between US and other
keyboards in the world, should specify english keyboard, if we are
going to specify anyhting
OP: yes, if possible to specify
DS: yes, this is informative so far
... Only for legacy, do not want to dwell too much on the legacy
... Your results look consistant accorss browsers
OP: OPera seems to be different
DS: might be useful if when it is in the Wiki, we color the rows
that have differences
OP: Key codes maybe?
DS: Yes
OP: Do not see reason to color rows that have differences for when
they idspatch keypress
DS: Your discresion
... Do you think it is useful to publish, even informatively, a
table like this? WRT the key identifier set?
AE: Yes
OP: Yes
DS: For next week we'll try to review proposal by Opera,
specifically IME
... He conceeded it would be useful to allow an implementation to
get keypress and keydown even in IME. Seems to have general
agreement
OP: Not sure what we can specify about legacy key events.
DS: Must be informative - not interested in normative legacy key
events spec
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to send reminder to group to review legacy key
events for next week [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-277 - Send reminder to group to review
legacy key events for next week [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-21].
Additional editor
DS: I've agreed to take on some of the editing responsibilites
... Charles announced earlier today on the members list
... Interested in anyone else who may want to edit the spec to let
us know
... If they want to be an editor, have time and resources, should
approach us
... We're drifting a little bit, need to solve legacy keyboard
stuff, focus more, I think we're progressing
... Will also send e-mail if there is a time that works better
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to send e-mail regarding better telcon time
request [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-278 - Send e-mail regarding better telcon
time request [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-21].
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to edit spec to add mousewheel updates
[recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Edit spec to add mousewheel updates
[on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-21].
pressure events
DS: Doug T from mozillia did early implementation for pressure
events
... Work done by the w3c by the Ink ML group. Does this look like a
DOM 3 Events item? Or different spec?
OP: Do not know enough about how hard it is to specify
<smaug> [20]http://www.w3.org/2006/webapi/track/issues/124
[20] http://www.w3.org/2006/webapi/track/issues/124
DS: In the interest for getting DOM 3 out, like to put asside but
should agressively track
... Maybe advanced mouse, advanced pointer interface
AE: There is also the direction and velicity, for advanced
pointer/finger UIs
DS: Should coordinate with InkML WG
... Whomever is doing InkML
... Already started about 6 months ago
... Do you agree it's better to move DOM 3 forward?
AE: yes
OP: Yes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to edit spec to add mousewheel updates [recorded
in [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: doug to incorperate his feedback into Halvord Steen's
wiki proposal [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to send e-mail regarding better telcon time
request [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug to send reminder to group to review legacy key
events for next week [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: olli to incorperate his feedback into Halvord Steen's
wiki proposal [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: ollie to incorperate his feedback into Halvord Steen's
wiki proposal [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: opettay2 to incorperate his feedback into Halvord
Steen's wiki proposal [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: smaug to incorperate his feedback into Halvord Steen's
wiki proposal [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/14-webapi-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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