- From: liorean <liorean@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:04:52 +0100
- To: "Web APIs WG (public)" <public-webapi@w3.org>
> > On 12/03/2008, Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu> wrote:
> >> I guess I could do the two interfaces, but I'm having a hard time
> >> seeing
> >> different extensions being made to these two interfaces (as
> > opposed to wholly
> >> new interfaces being invented, as was done here).
> On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:46 AM, liorean wrote:
> > I can actually imagine one extension that only makes sence on elements
> > and not on any other nodes - element-rooted instead of
> > subtree-only-but-document-rooted queries. (I don't see any real
> > benefit from such an interface though, but I've seen the idea
> > mentioned on the mailing lists.)
On 13/03/2008, Alex Russell <alex@dojotoolkit.org> wrote:
> The benefit here is the (potential) ability to root queries to
> containing nodes. Nearly every JavaScript library that does CSS
> selectors handles the equivalent of:
>
> node.querySelectorAll("> .thinger");
>
> Which currently has no expression via valid CSS 3 selectors. There's
> no concept of a query being a descendant of a selector root node
> although the above use-case occurs very frequently in real-world
> scripts.
Yes, but that use case has a trivial solution in document-rooted
context: determine the ID or if not present generate an ID for the
current node, query for a document-rooted "#ID > .thinger" and then if
you had to generate an ID, remove it.
In the context of HTML5 scoped style elements I did have an idea that
could be subverted for this case as well. The idae was basically a
::scope-root pseudo-element that encompassed the downwards sibling
tree of the scoped style element. This pseudo-element could be equally
useful in the Selectors API.
(I think I first mentioned it in
<uri:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jun/0069.html>.
The threading is sadly slightly broken in the archives though (usualy
suspect is Outlook), so it's hard to follow the entire discussion.)
> It seems foolish to extend the CSS 3 selectors WD to support a syntax
> that is simple-selector free, whereas it has use in the DOM-centric
> APIs.
Or in scoped style elements in HTML5... I still think explicit is
better than implicit though, with the added benefit that it will not
require changes to the basic algorithms of current selectors
implementations.
--
David "liorean" Andersson
Received on Thursday, 13 March 2008 13:05:32 UTC