Re: ISSUE-119: names lengthComputable and total

Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
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> On Dec 10, 2007, at 7:15 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
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>> Ikivo have told me that they also implemented already with the 
>> existing event names, and would write to say so.
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>> I am therefore resolving this issue by not changing the names.
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> I don't think the JSR objection is very strong, since JSR-280 says:
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> "Note – Note that MouseWheelEvent and ProgressEvent are newly included 
> in the W3C DOM3 draft specification and have not yet gone through the 
> W3C public review.  These W3C specifications are therefore to be 
> considered as work in progress. There may be some modifications to 
> these event types in the JSR280 Maintenance Release to ensure 
> alignment with the DOM3 Event types."
This clause has been added in respect to the agreement between W3C and 
Sun/JSR-280 given the current state of the related W3C specifications.
> In general I don't think we want to set a precedent of locking in bad 
> names in Editor's Drafts without a compelling reason. An 
> implementation alone is not much reason, there would have to be 
> significant content depending on it.
agreed. However, JSR-280 is Final Release: i.e. a Reference 
Implementation (RI) as well as a Test and Compatibility Kit (TCK) are 
available and licensed/licensable; Moreover a development kit  is also 
available and compliant.
This looks compelling enough ... too me :-)

> Regards,
> Maciej
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>> cheers
>>
>> Chaals
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:34:50 +0100, Jean-Yves Bitterlich 
>> <Jean-Yves.Bitterlich@sun.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> To the question in ISSUE-119 whether "[...] they already get 
>>> implemented
>>> with these names somewhere?", the answer would yes given that the Final
>>> Release of "JSR-280 XML API" (http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=280)
>>> defines the following methods based on the already existing names:
>>>
>>>
>>> |boolean|     |*getLengthComputable 
>>> <cid:part1.04030001.07090808@sun.com>*()|
>>>          Specifies whether the total size of the transfer is known.
>>> | int|     |*getLoaded <cid:part2.06010709.09060405@sun.com>*()|
>>>          Specifies the number of bytes downloaded since the beginning
>>> of the download.
>>> | int|     |*getTotal <cid:part3.02060700.06050607@sun.com>*()|
>>>          Specifies the expected total number of bytes of the content
>>> transferred in the operation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anne opined, a while ago, that these two attributes should have names
>>>> more closely related. In my request for further information, nobody
>>>> said they had any great reason for keeping the current names.
>>>>
>>>> I therefore propose to resolve this issue by changing the name
>>>> "lengthComputable" to "totalKnown". Any objections?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> Chaals
>>>>
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