- From: Jon Ferraiolo <jferrai@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:48:01 -0700
- To: Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@antplc.com>
- Cc: public-webapi@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFE25D28D6.076AE7CA-ON8825733E.005AA8FF-8825733E.005C4971@us.ibm.com>
I agree with Stewart that it would be a mistake to put innerHTML and other such things on the Element interface. The Core XML DOM also supports XML data files and should not include features that are specific to user interface languages such as HTML. I am not sure what the motivation is for generalizing some of the HTML DOM features beyond HTML, but I will point out that when SVG is used as a standalone document, it duplicates some of the same attributes and DOM fields from HTML. It has 'id', 'class' and 'style' attributes with the same semantics as HTML and SVGDocument shares 'title', 'referrer', 'domain', and 'URL'. At least 3 major browsers (Firefox, Safari and Opera) implement SVG within the same codebase that implements HTML, so they might benefit if DOM refactoring is done with both HTML and SVG in mind. Jon Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@a ntplc.com> To Sent by: public-webapi@w3.org public-webapi-req cc uest@w3.org Subject Re: Implementing HTMLDocument on 08/21/2007 09:24 all Documents (detailed review of AM the DOM) "Simon Pieters" <simonp@opera.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:23:47 +0200, Joćo Eiras <joao.eiras@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> Does this make sense on Element? I mean, the class attribute and it's > >> semantics are HTML/XHTML specific. > > > > > > The same goes for innerHTML. I agree there could be a generic property > > to access the markup directly, but innerHTML's name is out of context. > > innerHTML is actually not specific to HTML, despite its unfortunate name. > > In an XML context, innerHTML, on getting, returns a serialized string of > the node's children, in XML syntax. On setting it parses the assigned > string as XML and replaces the node's children with the parsed XML. > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/section-dynamic.html#innerhtml1 I assumed that what the document means is that if you have an XML document and you have elements that are in the HTML namespace in that document, then they should implement the HTMLElement interface, and thus have an innerHTML property? And nodes that are not in the HTML namespace do not have such a property? If the suggestion is really that XML documents with XML elements in them have an innerHTML properties on all the elements, then that's just awful abuse of the name. It'd be better to add an innerContent property to Element that does the right thing, before people start using it. I'd be in favour of moving most of those other properties from HTMLDocument to Document that were listed earlier in the thread, though - at least it would fix the rather anomalous 'domain' property (which ends up being read-only on HTMLDocument and write-only on Document - or was it vice versa? It's certainly confusing) -- Stewart Brodie Software Engineer ANT Software Limited
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