- From: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 23:15:55 +0200
- To: "Richard Schwerdtfeger" <richschwer@gmail.com>, "Gervase Markham" <gerv@mozilla.org>, "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Cc: Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com, public-web-security@w3.org, ARIA <public-aria@w3.org>, "Mike Cooper" <cooper@w3.org>
On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:15:54 +0200, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > On 2016-04-08 12:22 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: >> Companies do not use standard HTML markup when they feel it does not >> meet their needs. Sure. The question is whether the needs that they perceive match those that should be met, or are in fact destructive. If the needs they perceive lead them in the direction of doing something destructive, e.g. breaking accessibility, then we should try to find a solution that enables them to achieve their goals, but enhances accessibility - and is an easier way to do what they are trying to do. Hence my earlier question about the use cases. What are the needs that people think justify not using a "real" password field? > Prior to the introduction of the password <input> type, there were > password forms on the web, presumably based on type="text". I assume > companies did something to address security issues, such as using script > to obscure the password text, and using https to transmit it. I don't > know if one could hook into a password manager back then, but I wouldn't > be surprised if efforts were made to do so. The input element had password types from the beginning. People generally used server-side authentication in the olden days, based on standards that didn't allow customisation. Client-side technology wasn't really up to tricks like obscuring input via isindex until forms were reasonably common. Prior to, and long after, the introduction of the password input, major companies transmitted passwords in the clear - some multinational household names *still* do so today, exposing users to significant risk of theft, at least. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
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