- From: Colin Gallagher <colingallagher.rpcv@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:13:04 -0800
- To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
- Cc: "public-web-security@w3.org" <public-web-security@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABghAMi+f0POA0Kt+TM-aKZxRj4Erg8stKsMzKui7jMfSCaLkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Actually, no, I don't believe my behavior is inappropriate at all. I consider my remarks pointedly accurate in the context they were made at the time they were made. I also see, however, that the management of this list has become inflexible, and I would recommend changes be made in that regard. If you disagree with my statements, take it up with your local ombudsman. -c On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote: > > > On 02/20/2015 01:44 AM, Colin Gallagher wrote: > > Harry, I know you know this, but does everyone realize that the > Netiquette > > document linked within as part of the document Procedures, is from 1995? > > > > In light of some of the remarks I've made to the list, and my criticisms > of > > web wallets and the information collection that can result from them, and > > comparisons I've made to today's information 'management' to the > > information collection and group labeling conducted by Nazi Germany in > > WWII, I may as well continue in this vein, risking what may be viewed as > > further unproductive remarks... to say that a Netiquette document made in > > 1995 that is being used in 2015 (twenty years later) is itself worthy of > > questioning and review by any participants who may use it or be subjected > > to it, for example. > > After internal discussion, W3C still operates by that code of ethics and > professional conduct and currently sees no reason to change it. > > > > > Of course, civility is well and good and should be welcomed in any > > conversation, but censorship in any form (and indeed much of society is > > already there) should surely not be. This very subject is also being > > debated on a completely different forum > > < > https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1234-considerit-civility-pledge-and-being-civil/page__st__20#entry13304 > > > > for those interested in it. > > After a certain number of participants complain that trolling behavior > is not only counter-productive but making people feel personally > uncomfortable, we had an internal discussion and decided that we'd like > to remind people that we at W3C do have a code of ethics and > professional conduct which applies to all lists. If you feel your > behavior may be questionable, please review it. > > We generally don't bring it up, but we do understand that some people > may not be aware of it. If anyone thinks that a code of ethics and > professional conduct is unnecessary, you may simply either leave the > list or take it up with the ombudsman if you feel it is being applied > unfairly. > > cheers, > harry > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote: > > > >> I'd like to remind everyone that while we at W3C are not responding in > >> detail to every email, we are carefully watching the conversation evolve > >> and eagerly looking forward to technical proposals that can build > >> consensus. We know discussions can be fraught with disagreement and can > >> be difficult, but we believe the use-cases that motivate improved > >> authentication, cryptography, and the use of hardware tokens on the Web > >> are crucial to the future of the Open Web. > >> > >> However, several times on this mailing list we've had behavior, both > >> onlist and even off-list, that some are viewing as not particularly > >> constructive. In response to these complaints, we'd like to draw the > >> attention of everyone to the Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct: > >> > >> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/ > >> > >> We understand that e-mails are often sent in haste and emotions can run > >> high, but we must remember to treat each other with respect, > >> professionalism, fairness, and sensitivity to our many differences and > >> strengths. While we have perhaps been lax in this, from now on we will > >> enforce our Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct: patterns of > >> behavior that systematically violate the code of conduct will be > >> referred to an ombudsman for determination of next steps, and a personal > >> note will be sent beforehand. However, we believe that we can overcome > >> our differences and reach consensus on the next steps for securing the > Web. > >> > >> yours, > >> harry > >> > >> > >> > > >
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