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Re: Seamless iframes + CSS3 selectors = bad idea

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:12:30 +0000 (UTC)
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: sird@rckc.at, public-web-security@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0912060712010.5629@hixie.dreamhostps.com>
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> > 
> > I think the attack is that you can inject CSS in an unwilling victim 
> > page by embedding it in a seamless iframe (since CSS rules are 
> > supposed to cascade into the iframe's contained document per HTML5). 
> > However, since the contents of a seamless iframe have to be 
> > same-origin, the embedding page could just script it directly. Thus, 
> > I'm not sure what the vulnerability is. It's not safe to put a page on 
> > a given origin that contains data which must not be leaked to other 
> > pages on that origin. If anyone does that, then violating their 
> > mistaken assumption is not XSS. It does seem slightly novel that one 
> > page in a given origin could extract data from another on that same 
> > origin even if JavaScript is disabled.
> OK, I thought of a possible real vulnerability. A trusted host page on 
> the site wants to embed some untrusted user-generated content with the 
> ability to modify it, so it embeds it, hosted from its own server, using 
> <iframe sandbox="allow-same-origin">. This should prevent scripting and 
> plugins, so in theory it seems safe. But the untrusted content could 
> embed a further iframe with the seamless flag, embedding an arbitrary 
> document from the hosting service. It can then use CSS selectors to 
> probe for data in that document.

Fair enough. I've made the spec make seamless not work inside sandboxed 

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