- From: Ryan A. Missman - RSM <ryan@roadshowmedia.com>
- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:32:39 -0500
- To: "'W3C Public Web Plugins List'" <public-web-plugins@w3.org>
Ed, The more I think about this problem, the more I completely agree with your prediction. Though I would bet Microsoft would deploy a short series of 'updates' to baby step us all blindly into it, ultimately the majority of Internet users will be expected to update to an IE thread based browser or miss out. Your prediction is as creepy as it is possible. It may be irksome to intranet developers to recode legacy solutions, but the prediction of forcing .Net and possibly a new MS-kluge Java package to be used would roll all the marbles back into their court. Much the same way MSN is already collecting their marbles for MSN Messenger, Microsoft is making it apparent that they love competition and new rules. Here's to hoping all this blows by, -=R=- Ryan A. Missman RoadShow Media - CTO ryan@roadshowmedia.com -----Original Message----- From: public-web-plugins-request@w3.org [mailto:public-web-plugins-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ed Millard Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:39 PM To: W3C Public Web Plugins List Subject: Re: What a prior art product must do On Saturday 30 August 2003 09:09 pm, Jake Robb wrote: > The Java Virtual Machine and the Common Language Runtime would count as > applications, which must be loaded in order for Java and .NET code to run. > I think that voids your loophole. > I'm curious, if Microsoft links the .NET VM into the next version of IE and runs it as an IE thread do they stop infringing the patent? If so I imagine they may actually be quite happy about this ruling, behind closed doors, and perhaps they aren't trying very hard to find prior art to overturn the patent. If browser plugins are outlawed it does substantially more harm to Microsoft's competitors than it does to Microsoft as long as Microsoft builds the dominant browser. Assuming they can switch to builtin's instead of plugin's it will mean they can pick and choose which plugins will live and die following this decision. .NET will be builtin and survive. Java wont unless a court compells it. This solution will lead to bloat in IE so they will plea they can't build in every plugin so they will have to pick and choose. Windows Media player will be builtin and Real and Quicktime wont. It would seem to be an ideal way for Microsoft to dispose of some troublesome Internet competitors and they can say "The judge made us do it". Doing away with ActiveX plugins will certainly cause turmoil especially for all the corprate Intranet users relying on custom ActiveX plugins but I imagine Microsoft would be overjoyed to have them compelled to move to .NET anyway, with Eolas and the courts playing the heavy. Getting rid of ActiveX is a big plus form them for security reasons alone. Microsoft and Macromedia could cut a deal to convert Flash to a builtin if both were willing. If they aren't Microsoft would presumabky push SVG or some new proprietary vector graphics standard in .NET. With this approach Microsoft will also acquire a great deal more power over the ISV's they vet for builtin's since they will set the release schedule and can threaten to drop a builtin if, for example, an ISV becomes too friendly to competing platforms. -- Ed Millard
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