- From: Richard M. Smith <rms@computerbytesman.com>
- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:50:19 -0400
- To: <public-web-plugins@w3.org>
Interesting exchange of Wei Pei and Mike Doyle from 1995: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-talk/1995JulAug/0446.html Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:09:46 -0700 From: pei@gnn.com (Pei Wei) Message-Id: <199508212309.QAA22145@ebay> To: miked@eolas.com Subject: Re: EOLAS ACQUIRES MILESTONE INTERNET SOFTWARE PATENT Cc: www-talk@w3.org miked@eolas.com (Mike Doyle) wrote: > Pei, > We've had this discussion before (last September, remember?). You admitted > then that you did NOT release or publish anything like this before the Eolas > demonstrations. Please carefully re-read my letter to you... I said Viola was demonstrated in smaller settings, but before your demo. The applets stuff was demo'ed to whomever wanted to see it and had visited our office at O'Reilly & Associates (where I worked at the time). This is what I wrote on the VRML list: > Not that I wish to content on the point of simply who's first :) > But, let's see... (Wish I had kept better records and wrote papers > about things as they happened!) > > Definitely by May 8, 1993 we had demonstrated that plotting demo > (the very one shown in the viola paper) to visitors from a certain > computer manufacturer... This demo was memorable because someone and I > at ORA had lost sleep the night before the meeting, in order to cook up > that particular plotting demo :) We had to show something cool. That date (May 93), at least, predates your demo if I'm not mistaken. Then around August 93, it was shown to a bunch of attendees at the first Web Conference in Cambridge. So, it was shown, just not with lots of publicity and noise. I'm sure I could find more evidence if I spent/waste the time of digging thru archives. If you're talking about any display code transferred over network, look at a number of predating systems, including say net-transmitted postscript (NeWS). For transmitted interactive applications, even the early Viola (started around 88, relased 1991) had a viola-app net transfer tool (the idea is to have something like a Hypercard like environment on the scale of the net). If you're talking about interactive apps *specifically* on the web, ie applets in-lined into HTML documents etc, and with bi-directional communications, then look at ViolaWWW as it existed around late '92 early '93. -Pei pei@gnn.com http://ebay.gnn.com/people/pei/home.html
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