- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:41:11 -0400
- To: Garret Rieger <grieger@google.com>, Yoav Weiss <yoav.weiss@shopify.com>
- Cc: Webfonts WG <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>, public-web-perf@w3.org
- Message-ID: <d2768fb3-c6b8-4e0c-9df1-ac9aa416f9b8@w3.org>
Are there any other comments on IFT from Web Perf WG, or should we mark this review as closed? - https://github.com/w3c/IFT/issues/193 On 2024-08-06 19:28, Garret Rieger wrote: > > Added some answers to Yoav's questions inline. > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:16 PM Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org> wrote: > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Please review performance aspects of Incremental > Font Transfer > Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:59:44 +0200 > From: Yoav Weiss <yoav.weiss@shopify.com> > <mailto:yoav.weiss@shopify.com> > To: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org> <mailto:chris@w3.org> > CC: public-web-perf@w3.org > > > > Thanks for sending this for review Chris! This is super interesting!! > > Looking at the explainer, I think it could benefit from some > examples and flow diagrams in the part that touches on patch maps. > Some questions that came to mind: > > * Can font processors create any (reasonable) number of > potential patches for arbitrary codepoint ranges? > > Yes, it's left entirely up to the encoder to decide how to segment the > font (ie. how many patches and what codepoints are included in those > patches). > > * How would the discovery process work? When would browsers load > patches? > > A couple places in the spec touch on this: > > * Overview <https://w3c.github.io/IFT/Overview.html#overview> > * Opt-In Mechanism <https://w3c.github.io/IFT/Overview.html#opt-in> > > At a very high level it works like this: > 1. CSS declares a font face which uses the "tech(incremental)" keyword > to mark the font as utilizing incremental loading (allowing > non-supporting user agents to skip it). > 2. The font face links to a font file which will be encoded as a ttf, > otf, or woff2 as usual. > 3. The loaded font file will contain some initial glyphs plus a IFT > table which encodes a mapping from sets of codepoints to what patches > to load. > 4. When the user agent tries to render some content with that font it > can immediately use the initial glyph set and also use the codepoints > in the content to locate the relevant patches, load, and apply those > to get data for any glyphs which are needed but not in the initial font. > > * Are there restrictions on cross-origin serving of the patches? > If not, is there a risk of privacy leaks? The spec's privacy > section discusses the risk, but doesn't mention mitigations AFAICT > > > Under this new approach the patch loads are just regular http loads > and are subject to all of the usual CORS restrictions. We touch on > this in the Load Patch File > <https://w3c.github.io/IFT/Overview.html#abstract-opdef-load-patch-file> section > where it's specifically mentioned that the patch requests use fetch > <https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/> and match the CORS loading settings > of the initial font file. Which implies that patch loads will follow > CSS font fetching requirements > <https://www.w3.org/TR/css-fonts-4/#font-fetching-requirements>. > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 3:27 PM Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org> wrote: > > The Web Fonts WG requests review of the Incremental Font > Transfer (IFT) > specification by the Web Performance WG. A new WD of IFT was > published > on 9 July 2024 [1] > > This specification defines a way to incrementally transfer > fonts from > server to client. Incremental transfer allows clients to load > only the > portions of the font they actually need which speeds up font > loads and > reduces data transfer needed to load the fonts. A font can be > loaded > over multiple requests where each request incrementally adds > additional > data. > > Earlier work [2] demonstrated the performance improvements in > terms of > bytes transferred and reduced network delay, for various > network types. > > The current draft (unlike earlier drafts) does not require a > dynamic web > server to compute patches. Instead, a table of URLs to the > pre-computed > patches is contained within the subsetted font itself. This > means that > patches are applicable to multiple users, and are cacheable. > > Also (unlike earlier drafts, which used a custom patch request > protocol) > the patches are requested with a regular HTTP GET. > > We have an Explainer [3]. > > We would particularly value the review of the Web Performance > WG on > those aspects, although review of the entire specification > would of > course be most welcome. > > Comments should be raised as individual issues on our GitHub [4]. > > [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/2024/WD-IFT-20240709/ > [2] https://www.w3.org/TR/PFE-evaluation/ > [3] https://github.com/w3c/IFT/blob/main/IFT-Explainer.md > [4] https://github.com/w3c/IFT > > -- > Chris Lilley > @svgeesus > Technical Director @ W3C > W3C Strategy Team, Core Web Design > W3C Architecture & Technology Team, Core Web & Media > > -- Chris Lilley @svgeesus Technical Director @ W3C W3C Strategy Team, Core Web Design W3C Architecture & Technology Team, Core Web & Media
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